looking for a honest yes or no here.

do you really care about water run off?

  • yes

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • no

    Votes: 0 0.0%
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To a degree. Runoff from someone washing their car doesnt bother me as much as run off from some toxic generating factory of some sort



EDIT: I should care more about all run off period. Even rain water rinsing oil and crap off into the storm drains. If any of you have ever kept a saltwater aquarium you would know how the tiniest little change in your water will completely through off the equilibrium and could kill everything in your tank. it doesnt take much to mess things up
 
I'm no hippie or anything, I just wanted to make the point because I see some people are a little misinformed.



It doesn't matter so much that your chemicals are enviromentally friendly. I mean, that's a good thing ofcourse, BUT, what does matter is what youre cleaning off. Even if your degreaser is as enviromentally friendly as water, that's kind of shadowed by the fact that the sludge that's coming off the engine you're degreasing is pretty bad.



Btw barry, is there a story/reaso to go along with this poll or was it just something to spark conversation?



I didn't vote because I'm kind of in the middle. I am aware of it while cleaning my car/others cars and do my best to prevent excess run off but at the same time its not like I have some water reclamation mat or anything. And even than, its not like I'm cleaning/degreasing fleets of vehicles.
 
Nope. What runs off the roads when it rains is so much more toxic (motor oil, coolant, transmission fluid, trash, etc) that I feel it is a huge waste of time banning run-off from car washing. Problem is, there is no money in reducing run-off when it rains but there is in car washing through fines and sales tax on water containment systems.
 
Like Scott said. Millions and millions of cars driving around everyday laying down oil and burnt fuel on the roads, only to be washed down the storm drains everytime it rains. Add on the planes, trucks and boats. In terms of percentages of dirty runoff from detailers would probably be 0.0000000001 of the total.



No one is saying that if it makes you feel better about yourself than you shouldn't capture that runoff. But in terms of reality you are not making a difference. When cars start wearing diapers then maybe I will think about laying down a mat.
 
The solution to the pollution is the dilution. Considering the amount of water used to conventionally wash a car and the role the soap plays, the run off is not an issue worth getting concerned about.
 
Scottwax said:
Nope. What runs off the roads when it rains is so much more toxic (motor oil, coolant, transmission fluid, trash, etc) that I feel it is a huge waste of time banning run-off from car washing. Problem is, there is no money in reducing run-off when it rains but there is in car washing through fines and sales tax on water containment systems.
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Yeah, and that's not even mentioning all the brake and tire dust...and flaking clearcoat from non-Autopians :p
 
I don't even give it a passing thought. If more people spent Saturday mornings in their driveway washing their vehicles, the world would be a better place.
 
Well, I try to do my part to protect the environment; conserve fuel, energy, and water. I do not rinse engines. I use ONR as much as possible, but still use my PW sometimes. I agree that the small amount of water that does reach the storm drains has a marginal impact. I can say that if everyone does their part it can make a big difference. The whole issue of cracking down on mobile detailers is ridiculous. We just are not represented well in politics.
 
I'm on the fence but leaning towards no.



I contribute what I can to protect the environment through practical and reasonable ways. I try to avoid too much run-off via ONR and waterless products and buying gallons to avoid too much packaging.



I don't agree with fining and banning as long as we're educated, responsible and the products that are available are as environmentally friendly as possible. I hope the politicians chase after the product makers instead and educate.
 
I won't go draining oil in the storm drains but I don't worry too much about what comes off the car. I try to wash my car in the grass to help filter it before it drains.
 
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