looking for a honest yes or no here.

do you really care about water run off?

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Nope. What runs off the roads when it rains is so much more toxic (motor oil, coolant, transmission fluid, trash, etc) that I feel it is a huge waste of time banning run-off from car washing. Problem is, there is no money in reducing run-off when it rains but there is in car washing through fines and sales tax on water containment systems.
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That's it right there.



This city is broke. Mismanaged by corrupt white collar a-holes for decades.

And police officers, sheriffs, AQMD and city inspectors that i know well,

share the same sentiment. All are also customers of mine. They're not

after the little guys like me and you. Huge topic...
 
I voted "yes" because I cared enough to have my shop's floor drains plumbed into the sanitary sewer, and I have an oil separator setup.



But I know some will say that's still not sufficient.
 
Not where I live since all of the water goes to a combined system and gets treated anyway. I would if it went right into the water though just because I'm a big fisherman.
 
nope nope nope. not at all. Jakerooni, Scottwax, and David pretty much already started my feelings on this one.



besides - if I didn't wash a clients car at their home, does that mean they wouldn't wash it at their home? Is it really worse for me to go around washing cars that would have been washed in their driveways just the same? I think not
 
The real problem with run-off is when it's not filtered, like not going thru a grassy area. The earth is a great filter, but that isn't to that you should be dumping product into the nearest lawn, or anything else for that matter.



Runoff is still a concern though. While I don't ONR, I try to minimize product use, and rarely use APC in favor of car wash soap or a milder cleaner.



While runoff from detailing is probably negligible, it doesn't mean we should ignore it.
 
Let's see, Iran is getting nukes, the gargole in North Korea has long range missles and right here in NC - they busted a bunch of O sama wannabees - water run off - WTF????
 
It's bad enough when the government ruined the manufacturing of some of the best detailing products with the limitations it placed on volatile organic compounds

(VOCs). Meguires #16 wax comes to mind. If detailing product run-off becomes big concern (like it has in California), then we Autopians have a huge problem on our hand. It's not like I'm concerned about not ruining the environment; it just seems a little over-the-top if this becomes law. Here in the Midwest, I'm more concerned about the medicine & drugs that we take and then "eliminate" from the body and goes untreated at the municipal water-&-sewer disposal plants and ends up in the water supply. That's a much "bigger" concern than APC residue or car wash soap that may sneek though untreated.
 
Well, lets put things in perspective a bit. The roads are made from a mix of stones, oil and tar(ever see those oil slicks after a rain?). In the winter the state throws salt and other chemcials on them. The rain washes all that stuff into the ground or down the drains. In comparison washing a car with biodegradable soap washes a thimble sized amount of junk into the system. It's like using a bandaid to stop the bleeding when someone has cut their leg off.
 
Accumulator said:
I voted "yes" because I cared enough to have my shop's floor drains plumbed into the sanitary sewer, and I have an oil separator setup.



But I know some will say that's still not sufficient.
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For a business using an oil/water separator is a good idea.
 
wannafbody said:
For a business using an oil/water separator is a good idea.
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When I had the dealership we had to redo the (old, historic) building to the current commercial code, which was a pretty big deal. It seemed sensible though, so when I had my home shop built I told 'em to spec everything to the same commercial code.



I will say that when I do a big undercarriage cleanup, some of the stuff that goes down my floor drain is kinda nasty. Nice to know that most of it's ending up in that big ol' tank.



Guys here have :nono me that my setup is still not eco-friendly enough, but it's the same as I'd have to have for a commercial detailing business in my area.



Yeah, my little contribution to my area's waste water is pretty negligible, and the medical waste issue is a lot more serious, but I still like the idea that I'm not adding (well, not too much..) to the problem.
 
I'm not as concerned about water runoff, but rather water usage. I have dramatically dropped my water usage by switching to ONR and/or DP Rinseless washes. There is still a time and place for a traditional wash, but for upkeep ONR/DP rinseless washes are more than satisfactory.
 
Well I voted no when this thread first started. Today however, after doing my ONR wash, I poured the resulting water down the sink and not into the gutter.



I also agree with longdx. Being in CA, we all need to cut down on water usage!
 
dheath said:
Well I voted no when this thread first started. Today however, after doing my ONR wash, I poured the resulting water down the sink and not into the gutter.



I also agree with longdx. Being in CA, we all need to cut down on water usage!
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You can pour the water into the grass too. I have customers whose cars I've washed pretty much every week for more than 10 years. Used QEW on their cars before switching to ONR when that came out and I can tell you that after all these years pouring out old QEW and ONR into the same areas of their lawns there is no visible difference between those areas and the rest of the lawn.
 
i dont think a lil car wash soap is going to kill everything, there are much bigger fish to fry, the government should spend less time and money worrying about people washing their cars and more worrying about the future of our country
 
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