Best Polish or Wax for a Black Vehicle

godd1000

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I've been at it for a while now looking for the best stuff for black vehicles. I've tried Poorboys Black Diamond Glaze also I've tried Dodo Juice Puple Haze soft wax and Dodo Juice Blue Velvet hard wax with great results. I just bought a 2012 F-150 (with tuxedo black paint) to help with my mobile detailing and other various activities. I really want to make shine and eventually protect it. Where I live we get 5 months of winter. Any ideas? I'm not afraid to spend a little money on good product because my customers will benefit from it.



Thanks guys for sharing your knowledge,



Jamie
 
Garry Dean said:
Which one do you want? A polish or a wax? They are two completely different things.



I know they are two different things.. The polish I have the wax I don't so tell me about some kickass wax's that really make black paint POP..
 
Sealants, Poxy, Blackfire Wet Diamond, Zanio Z-5 or Z-2 and waxes Pin. Souveran and Dan's favorite CG 5050 .... The one of these you can't go wrong if the car is prepped correctly.
 
Thanks MRX8 I've been looking at Pinnicle Souveran and CG 5050, Maybe I'll pick up both and give them a try. Surface will be prepped correctly its brand new :)
 
Three I'd urge you to try are:



HD Poxy :heelclick

CK CMW :heelclick

CG 5050 :heelclick



Have used all three on black recently and make it look astonishing. All three have excellent durability. Poxy and CMW are the best value for money.
 
I always 3 step a dark colored car. clay bar first, then use a polish made by Auto Magic called GS1, it will give it that deep shine. Then i use a self leveling wax also from Auto Magic called BC2 which will bring out the luster and leave a "wet" looking shine.



Reflections Detailing

Ocean isle Beach,nc
 
Since you get 5 months of winter, why not adopt a two stage wax program?

Stage 1 for the winter time: Collinite 845 or 476S or FK1000P (All three of these offer long lasting protection)

Stage 2 for the warm times: Souveran or an even longer lasting beauty wax, Victoria Concours.
 
Thanks for the replies guys. Now its just gonna come down to waiting to try these ideas. The paint is still to new and needs to cure for a few more months I guess.
 
Factory new is different from paint shop new.

Factory paint is dried/cured way differently than a paint shop can so the new factory paint is ready for anything when the car is delivered.



Not so with paint shops. They can't come close to the same drying methods of factories so it takes a month or two or three for new paint jobs to off gas and cure properly.



Your F-150 is ready to go now.
 
JohnZ3MC said:
Factory new is different from paint shop new.

Factory paint is dried/cured way differently than a paint shop can so the new factory paint is ready for anything when the car is delivered.



Not so with paint shops. They can't come close to the same drying methods of factories so it takes a month or two or three for new paint jobs to off gas and cure properly.



Your F-150 is ready to go now.



See thats what i thought but the dealer advised against it. I can't see letting a new vehicle go without protection. I know what I'm doing this weekend.
 
I have a solid black car which I've been babying for several years. I've tried several different waxes and sealants on her. I prefer the carnauba look, and my favorite carnauba wax for her is Victoria Concours Red. I also love Souveran, but given it's lack of durability, I just don't use it unless I'm prepared to wax the car the following week. This summer I intend to use Swissvax Smaragd (Best of Show) on her. I tried it once on her two years ago, but didn't fall in love with it. I liked it but just didn't fall in love with it. I think I need to give it another shot. I like to wax my S2K every four weeks during the summer months. By the end of the summer I should have a good idea whether I prefer Victoria Concours Red or Smaragd.



My favorite beauty sealant is Blackfire Wet Diamond. I have not tried Poxy yet.
 
godd1000- Welcome to Autopia!



The dealer's "don't wax it" info is wrong. Unless it's been repainted! Gee, hope they didn't do that and try to hide it from you. But for that matter, Ford approved Optimum Car Wax for use on "post-production paintwork" anyhow.



IMO, the #1 thing for black is to avoid having it all marred up. To me, for a real-world vehicle that means using a durable product that protects well, lasts a long time (so you don't end up having to leave it unprotected when life interferes with your detailing), and sheds dirt well during the wash (to reduce wash-induced marring). The "what makes black look great?" in the sense of "deep/rich/etc." is mainly BS when it comes to how real-world vehicles look day-in-day out.
 
Accumulator said:
godd1000- Welcome to Autopia!



The dealer's "don't wax it" info is wrong. Unless it's been repainted! Gee, hope they didn't do that and try to hide it from you. But for that matter, Ford approved Optimum Car Wax for use on "post-production paintwork" anyhow.



IMO, the #1 thing for black is to avoid having it all marred up. To me, for a real-world vehicle that means using a durable product that protects well, lasts a long time (so you don't end up having to leave it unprotected when life interferes with your detailing), and sheds dirt well during the wash (to reduce wash-induced marring). The "what makes black look great?" in the sense of "deep/rich/etc." is mainly BS when it comes to how real-world vehicles look day-in-day out.



I just ordered a BHB to try and prevent as much marring as possible. I use DP's Detailer's Xtreme Foam Formula Auto Shampoo anyways plus I do the 2 bucket method. Unfortunately right now its being repainted to repair a couple of scratches it recieve getting iff the car hauler. Keep up the good job, I really enjoy reading your posts, and thanks for the speaking the truth..
 
godd1000 said:
I know they are two different things.. The polish I have the wax I don't so tell me about some kickass wax's that really make black paint POP..

Hmmm... A polish is for prepping the paint. A wax or SEALANT protects the paint. Unless you're talking about an AIO product, they are two different categories. It's like asking which is better - a Karcher pressure washer or Souverain wax?



I prefer Menzerna polishes and Zaino sealants.



Dan.
 
IMO, good wash media is very important, but having a pressure washer to knock the dirt off the car is much more effective vs a garden hose and an insanely meticulous wash technique. My wash technique keeps getting sloppier and sloppier, my autopia card might get pulled if you guys saw some of the stuff I do, but I'm not getting marring because i take the time to powerwash all the dirt off before touching the car.
 
godd1000 said:
I just ordered a BHB to try and prevent as much marring as possible... Keep up the good job, I really enjoy reading your posts, and thanks for the speaking the truth..



Speaking of "speaking the truth", do a quick (if dreaded ;) ) SEARCH on threads that I've started (there aren't that many of 'em) and find my "BHB Comparison" thread. Lots of info on which BHB to buy/not...and you might not like what you read.



Now *using* a BHB correctly, that's another matter and a kinda involved subject.



Dan said:
IMO, good wash media is very important, but having a pressure washer to knock the dirt off the car is much more effective



Yeah, even I use a "touchless" method (siphon-feed sprayer hooked to the compressor) for getting the worst dirt of when things are really dirty. For "normally dirty" vehicles the BHB pre-wash works OK for me, but I sure won't argue with using a pressure washer instead. I just don't have a working one at present, and my overcrowed shop isn't really conducive to using one (overspray/mist etc.).
 
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