Opti Seal

thesacrifice said:
how is 7 months bold? Zaino CS claims 9 months..
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I pay little attention to durability claims because they are so dependent on enviroment and how the vehicle is taken care of. Real world testing in a variety of areas will determine where each product stands.
 
In all honesty people.....products like OCW, Clear Seal and OptiSeal are so easy to re-apply that durability takes a back seat.



I mean if all you had was OCW and you washed your driver weekly and then spritz the hood, trunk and roof with OCW you would be always protected and it took you only 10 minutes at the most. Same with CS, OS and the Ultima product.



You should follow a schedule something like this.....one week do the hood, roof and trunk, next week do the side panels, skip one week and the fourth week do the whole car. Durability would then be of little concern.



Personally if a product gives me 3 months of protection I'm happy. I often find the ones most concerned about durability are the same people trying something new on their cars every other week.....kinda ironic, eh?



Anthony
 
Anthony, Scott... I totally agree.



You two detail professionally so 7 and 9 month durability may be worthwhile to you in regards to customers you don't see often, but for me..I have no problem spraying on a layer of Aquawax ontop of something like Clearseal or Optiseal once a month and have no need for that long of durability other than bragging rights.
 
One of the things that peaked my interest with Clear Seal was that you are/were supposed to be able to top a carnauba with it, hence locking in the look of the carnauba while keeping the durability of a sealant. What about Opti-seal? Will you be able to top a carnauba with it, keep that carnuaba look, and get 3 months of protection?
 
Anthony Orosco said:
In all honesty people.....products like OCW, Clear Seal and OptiSeal are so easy to re-apply that durability takes a back seat.



I mean if all you had was OCW and you washed your driver weekly and then spritz the hood, trunk and roof with OCW you would be always protected and it took you only 10 minutes at the most. Same with CS, OS and the Ultima product.



You should follow a schedule something like this.....one week do the hood, roof and trunk, next week do the side panels, skip one week and the fourth week do the whole car. Durability would then be of little concern.



Personally if a product gives me 3 months of protection I'm happy. I often find the ones most concerned about durability are the same people trying something new on their cars every other week.....kinda ironic, eh?



Anthony
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In a mild environment like Southern California that might be true but between the northeast winter, salt and poorly buffered precipitiation(acid rain) durability and protection are important factors.
 
thesacrifice said:
how is 7 months bold? Zaino CS claims 9 months..
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Well, I question CS durability claims as well. I expect to know what kind of environment (east coast, west coast, mid west) these sealants (and I mean all LSPs) are tested under, whether they are daily drivers or garage queens, what kind of environmental exposure they endure. What kind of car wash was used, whether QD was used at any point....etc etc...



For example, I got 6 months out of NXT (which has a reputation of being so-so on its durability). However, that was on a car that sat in a garage for the entire time, being driven once or twice a month, on sunny, clear days. It was dusted, but no QD or washing, and the paint was single stage. Weather was generally mild (60-70 degrees). The moon was waning and the sun was in the southern sky.



I'm not trying to pick on Anthony or Scott, I'm sure Opti Seal is a fine product. I just expect more information, which I think we are entitled to, considering that they have been doing the testing for Optimum.
 
DTailN said:
One of the things that peaked my interest with Clear Seal was that you are/were supposed to be able to top a carnauba with it, hence locking in the look of the carnauba while keeping the durability of a sealant. What about Opti-seal? Will you be able to top a carnauba with it, keep that carnuaba look, and get 3 months of protection?
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So far we have used OptiSeal under and on top of paste and cream waxes and so far all went well. Now personally I would not use a cream wax on top of Optiseal, or any sealant really, unless allowed to fully bond as the solvent content in cream waxes is higher, or so I am told.



I have tried to give my best answer to everyone in terms of durability of OptiSeal but my answers can only come from the conditions I have used it in. I have no testing results from the East or West coast but from my testing here in South Texas I have gotten on average 5 months...some getting less and some getting more. This is why I encourage people in the East and West coast to put it to the test and then give us their feedback, that's about as honest of a reply I can give at this time.



Anthony
 
RCBuddha said:
I'm not trying to pick on Anthony or Scott, I'm sure Opti Seal is a fine product. I just expect more information, which I think we are entitled to, considering that they have been doing the testing for Optimum.
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I haven't been doing the testing for Optimum, Anthony has. I only got a couple small samples in the past month. I can only base my experience over that length of time. Durability is at least a month and it seems to work fine over other sealants, carnaubas, Poli-Seal, Werkstatt's Prime and Zaino AIO. I'm not sure what else you want, but that's all I have.
 
BlackElantraGT said:
Too bad it only comes in 8 oz size. I hope it doesn't cost as much as CS.
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compare cost per application. I'm not sure how far OS will spread but I can say that once you get the technique down an application of CS will cost roughly $1.
 
BlackElantraGT said:
Too bad it only comes in 8 oz size. I hope it doesn't cost as much as CS.
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Quality products with high quality or the best components require pricing accordingly. Not to mention all the R&D cost to bring something to the market.

Many times you do get what you pay for.:secret



8 oz is plenty. If Opti-Seal is anything like Zaino CS in terms of application usage , 8 oz will last a long time and provide many applications.
 
Why is it that almost every thread turns into a Zaino thread. I started this with just a simple question about release date and as usual, almost every thread turns Zaino. Its like talking to cult people. Where is the Kool-Aid and blue Nikes.
 
An 8 oz bottle is actually huge when compared to the amount needed for one car. I did an Audi RS4 just the other day and it took me about 10 sprays which is no where near an ounce of product.



If I am correct, 200 pumps would equal an ounce of OptiSeal. So both a 6oz bottle of CS and an 8oz bottle of OS will and should last a very long time.



Anthony
 
Anthony Orosco said:
An 8 oz bottle is actually huge when compared to the amount needed for one car. I did an Audi RS4 just the other day and it took me about 10 sprays which is no where near an ounce of product.



If I am correct, 200 pumps would equal an ounce of OptiSeal. So both a 6oz bottle of CS and an 8oz bottle of OS will and should last a very long time.



Anthony
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Be careful Anthony, you mentioned "Zaino". ;)



Appreciate you input. :goodjob
 
Anthony Orosco said:
An 8 oz bottle is actually huge when compared to the amount needed for one car. I did an Audi RS4 just the other day and it took me about 10 sprays which is no where near an ounce of product.



If I am correct, 200 pumps would equal an ounce of OptiSeal. So both a 6oz bottle of CS and an 8oz bottle of OS will and should last a very long time.



Anthony
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200 pumps an oz? :nono :nono :laugh: :laugh:
 
tdekany said:
200 pumps an oz? :nono :nono :laugh: :laugh:
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He is probably referring to a misting sprayer apparatus without full compression of the sprayer. Quite reasonable with the mileage I am getting with CS. Products of this type require very little per dispensing to cover an area with protectant.
 
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