Excuse Me, I Believe I Was Here First...

CamoZ71 said:
With a good enough lawyer, you can get out of just about anything these days....
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Ain't that the truth ^ :iagree:


wfedwar said:
15 years for shouting and cutting in line?
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Well, that and going Ape-$hit ^ :scared:



doctordon said:
According to police, she was NOT arrested for cutting line but for going ape-$hit after the incident - yelling and cursing and hurling "verbal assaults after being asked to leave the store. The incident has also turned into a racial issue as she is black. Next thing you know Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson will be picketing WalMart stores.
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We have a Colored Preacher here that is the biggest racist sense David Duke. He organized a march in Kennet, Mo., they are still there protesting. Oh Yea, Jesse & Al are on this guys speed dial, they bring there hate filled message to Memphis all the time Boo Hoo



Bunky said:
From what I have seen in a local paper I read, most of these are either dismissed or minimal fines. The view is they do not need to clog up the already overcrowded jails (at taxpayer expense) for such soft crimes if no one was hurt and any minor damage is repaid.

$50 fine. suspension. case closed.

Some are in a hurry to jail everyone...pay $15k per year to house them, yet do not want to spend $5k on preventive stuff to keep them from getting into jail...
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The District Attorney has already tried to plea-bargain the case down to assualting an officer. If she could manage to stay out of trouble for 1 year, it will be erased from her record + NO JAIL TIME.

However, this plea bargain is not satisfactory to the angry mob. They wanna keep stiring the poop pot :rolleyes:
 
I work in Sikeston,MO just a 1/2 hour or so from Kennett. They have her on tape going ballistic. They have brought the prosecuter in from Cape Girardeau, MO (Morley Swingle) to try the case. Cape is where I live. I certainly agree about being another reason not to shop at Wally World (as if I needed any more lol).
 
Exactly what is the reason for not shopping at WalMart? Ya'll against lower prices or what?

Now the woman that was charged should get the full wrath of the law, I'd say give her 30 days either picking up trash or washing police cars.
 
I dont understand how it is so easy to villify our first-responders.
Remember the Harvard professor who was arrested because he did not want to show his ID to the officer responding?
I also dont understand why whenever there is an issue such as this the race card is always played.
Would she have been less irrate and handled herself better if the responding officer was black?
Racism is perpetuated on both sides by ignorance, but remember, if you dont want me to stereotype you - dont live up to the stereotype.
 
"... the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness and self-control." Galatians 5:22-23

No one really WANTS patience and self-control. It's just easier to blow up and cause a scene.

But people NEED to have patience and self-control. They are good things.:angel:
 
Freedom of speach doesn't have anything to do with this. Perhaps you should do a little more research on the what the founding fathers had in mind instead of assuming bad behavior is a Constitutional right.
 
Does anyone really think its ok to jail someone for yelling, screaming, "going ape$hit", or whatever you want to call it? Come on. We have more important things to worry about.

I know of two drunk drivers that cumulatively killed four people and cumulatively served less than 24 hours. Let's not worry about screaming.
 
wfedwar said:
Does anyone really think its ok to jail someone for yelling, screaming, "going ape$hit", or whatever you want to call it? Come on. We have more important things to worry about.
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Ya think......

Baseball, basketball and football players trash talk all the time......

This woman needs a fine for being stupid and leave it at that......

Jail time is ridiculous........
 
Junebug said:
Freedom of speach doesn't have anything to do with this. Perhaps you should do a little more research on the what the founding fathers had in mind instead of assuming bad behavior is a Constitutional right.
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I don't even live in the USA. Canada all the way. There have been times when I have straight yelled in cops face, straight up putting him down calling him a pig and he hides behind his badge etc., and he did absolutely nothing..........Why?...Because he can't it is my right to have freedom of speech, if I do not directly threaten him or he does not feel threatened, or I do not pose a threat to anyone including myself then I can talk trash to him. There does become a point where harrasment can enter the mix but if it is a transient thing that it is fine. "freedom of thought, belief, opinion and expression, including freedom of the press and other media of communication" one of my fundamental rights.

I will always beak the cops no matter what, I despise their presence and they are in my eyes the scum of the earth.
 
Forgive them - they know not what they do. (The trick is teaching them what they've done.) Gotta work on my smile :smile:...

Jack
 
Luster said:
"... the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness and self-control." Galatians 5:22-23

No one really WANTS patience and self-control. It's just easier to blow up and cause a scene.

But people NEED to have patience and self-control. They are good things.:angel:
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Well said Bill
 
wfedwar said:
Does anyone really think its ok to jail someone for yelling, screaming, "going ape$hit", or whatever you want to call it? Come on. We have more important things to worry about.

I know of two drunk drivers that cumulatively killed four people and cumulatively served less than 24 hours. Let's not worry about screaming.
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I agree with you, but i'm not sure prosecutors were really talking jail time in the beginning.
 
jcroberts85 said:
I don't even live in the USA. Canada all the way. There have been times when I have straight yelled in cops face, straight up putting him down calling him a pig and he hides behind his badge etc., and he did absolutely nothing..........Why?...Because he can't it is my right to have freedom of speech, if I do not directly threaten him or he does not feel threatened, or I do not pose a threat to anyone including myself then I can talk trash to him. There does become a point where harrasment can enter the mix but if it is a transient thing that it is fine. "freedom of thought, belief, opinion and expression, including freedom of the press and other media of communication" one of my fundamental rights.

I will always beak the cops no matter what, I despise their presence and they are in my eyes the scum of the earth.
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Wow, hope you dont ever need one to help you. What about commom courtesy.
 
Just to clarify....

She was arrested for assaulting the police officers - specifically for kicking one and splitting the lip of another as they fought to restrain her... this was a result of her not following the instructions of the officers and store management to leave the premises after her behavior became unacceptable.

In the end, I think this is indicative a larger underlying problem in society of people not having any discipline. This is a trait (or lack thereof) that has been passed on to the younger generation and is a cancerous mindset of it always being someone else's fault.

dis?ci?pline (dĭs'ə-plĭn)
n.
Training expected to produce a specific character or pattern of behavior, especially training that produces moral or mental improvement.

Controlled behavior resulting from disciplinary training; self-control.

Control obtained by enforcing compliance or order.

A systematic method to obtain obedience: a military discipline.

A state of order based on submission to rules and authority: a teacher who demanded discipline in the classroom. ... and she is a teacher no less?

Indeed this is the United States of America and we do have our freedoms for sure, but that does not give you the right to treat others poorly - just look at the preamble of the Constitution:

We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.

If we do not hold these things to be true and good and right then we have resolved ourselves to simply become the United States of A$$holes.

Can someone show me where I can put my soapbox now?
 
tthomp82 said:
Just to clarify....

She was arrested for assaulting the police officers - specifically for kicking one and splitting the lip of another as they fought to restrain her...
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I saw that today, along with the video of her pushing items back four times at the checkout line........

The manager of the store was on CNN and told her side and it becomes very obvious that this woman asked to go to jail for her own actions........


This was way more than just calling the officers names........
 
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