Zymol Atlantique

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I've been searching for reviews, but can hardly find anyone with Zymol Atlantique. Has anyone used this? If so, can you compare it to a Pinnacle Souveran or even the Zymol Vintage, Destiny? Looking to get some, but want to make sure its worth it.



Thanks in advance.
 
Zymol Atlantique is a bit of an 'odd ball'.In the EG range,it is slightly below Vintage(Van-Taj),but the formula composition is very similar,eg both Atlantique and Vintage are comprised of the 'refined' 'White' Carnauba wax,and percentage by volume is 60% and 61% respectively.



A side by side comparison of Atlantique and Vintage,(several years ago) revealed very subtle differences.To me Vintage had the edge in terms of richness of colour,wetness,and reflective range,but durability was on a par with Atlantique.Zymol Destiny is quite similar in appearance,but to me not quite as deep looking.



Now,i do not wish to upset any Souveran fans,but all of the EG Zymol waxes are in a different league,IMO.If you could stretch your budget just a little more,then i would go for the Vintage instead,because you will get your 22oz container refilled for life,while with the Atlantique,you only get the standard 8oz container.Both are very fine products regardless.
 
SilverLexus said:
I politely differ. I've tried all the Zymols but I think Souveran wins.
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I'm interested in both. Care to elaborate on your experiences? I figure at the Zymol price point ease of application / removal is secondary to results. With the souveran, I have read that is is quite user friendly. But the real question for me is (not concerning durability): Will the Zymol look that much better than the Souveran? On a scale of 1 to 10, 10 being the best, side by side how would you rate both applied to an autotopian prepped black finish?

How would both look after say 6 weeks / 6 washes?



If you get a chance ann answer would be appreciated. I am trying to justify the Zymol in my head, yet I'm having trouble. Especially since the DG wash, dry with AW, apply Z5, Z2, Natty's Blue /NXT, followed by Z8 combo looks so good to me. Can it really look that much better? I'm again not worried about durability because I apply a Z5/2 every week and top it with an LSP.

Thanks,

Barrett
 
barrettward said:
I'm interested in both. Care to elaborate on your experiences? I figure at the Zymol price point ease of application / removal is secondary to results. With the souveran, I have read that is is quite user friendly. But the real question for me is (not concerning durability): Will the Zymol look that much better than the Souveran? On a scale of 1 to 10, 10 being the best, side by side how would you rate both applied to an autotopian prepped black finish?

How would both look after say 6 weeks / 6 washes?



If you get a chance ann answer would be appreciated. I am trying to justify the Zymol in my head, yet I'm having trouble. Especially since the DG wash, dry with AW, apply Z5, Z2, Natty's Blue /NXT, followed by Z8 combo looks so good to me. Can it really look that much better? I'm again not worried about durability because I apply a Z5/2 every week and top it with an LSP.

Thanks,

Barrett
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So I'm not the only one:chuckle: You should try replacing your Nattys with CG 5050 or (I prefer) Pete's 53. 53% white carnauba. The reason why I'm looking at the Atlantique is because it has 60% white carnauba and I'm getting it at a very nice price. Vintage has 61% and has been reviewed and used by many, but not Atlantique. Just wondered why. Is it bad, not worth it, got something better for the price, etc?
 
Care to elaborate on your experiences?
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Sure. I find Souveran wetter looking and easier to apply/remove. The Zymol stuff is very pricey but I don't see any commensurate performance improvement. Souveran is the wettest looking carnauba I have tried. I found durability to be the same at around 6-8 weeks in the Georgia heat.



I've been playing around with Z-5 Pro topped by Souveran. I should have some pics up soon. :)
 
SilverLexus said:
I politely differ. I've tried all the Zymols but I think Souveran wins.
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You've actually tried and used all of these Zymol waxes?

Zymol wax: - Creame, Carbon, Japon, Saab, Volvo, Talon, Mini, Detail, Rouge, Ebony, Jaguar, Glasur, Titanium, the Fantasy line by Zymol - Fantasy Acrylic, Fantasy Urethane, Fantasy Lacquer,

Now we get into the Estate Glaze line - Concours, Ital, Destiny, Atlantique, Vintage, Royale.



That's a pretty bold / broad statement you made there bro. IF you really have tried them all, then hats off to you. I am factory Trained at the Zymol Factory in 1991, and I have only tried and worked with most of them.



Thank God I find your post to be hilarious.

:funnypost



Wise 85 - I agree completely with your comment "Now,i do not wish to upset any Souveran fans,but all of the EG Zymol waxes are in a different league,IMO."



Souveran is a good wax. Zymol is a Great wax!

Volkswagons are good little German cars. Mercedes are Great German cars.



Cheers from Canada

Larry B
 
Now we get into the Estate Glaze line - Concours, Ital, Destiny, Atlantique, Vintage, Royale.
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I've tried all the Estate waxes and NSX and Carbon and Titanium and Japon. So I guess I've tried enough to have an experienced opinion.



Souveran is a good wax. Zymol is a Great wax!
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:beware Spoken like a dealer of Zymol.
 
The only reason I bought the Vintage over the Atlantique was for the refills.



As for durability, Vintage on the Sequoia has seen five weeks with very hot (100+) desert heat, and many days of driving rain, 800+ miles of drving (with the associated bugs and hard rain). It still absolutely repels water. The stuff just jumps off the finish, just as good as it did the first time it was washed after the Vintage was applied. The water repelling/beading effect of Vintage really is fun to watch. It's also a pretty good measure of how much is left on your finish
 
I'm sitting in Phoenix airport, waiting to catch a flight home right now, but I'd be happy to grab a video of washing the truck tomorrow. I'll post it as soon as I can.



I know you want to see the pictures because you're skeptical that a carnauba LSP could last that long through such adverse conditions, and I don't blame ya. I remember Paul the infamous UK detailer say that he's seen Royale last for five months, and I remmeber thinking "shananigans!" at the time. While I'm not even close to five months, I'm very impressed the stuff has lasted five weeks with the hell i've put it through.



Pics to come, my skeptical friend! :)
 
SilverLexus said:
I've tried all the Estate waxes and NSX and Carbon and Titanium and Japon. So I guess I've tried enough to have an experienced opinion.







:beware Spoken like a dealer of Zymol.
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Well SilverLexus - I am not a dealer for Zymol. I used to be at one time many years ago.

So, I have no ties to the Zymol company. Therefore I can speak my mind. And yes I do use other waxes and many other car care product lines.



Be careful bro, with throwing that SPAM label at people. One might think that same thing with you and your Souvern . Souvern dealer are you? LOL



Cheers

Larry B
 
SilverLexus said:
Do you have any pictures?
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SuperBee364 does indeed have many photos of his vehicle detailed with Vintage. His car looks fantastic.

I'm getting my $1852.00 container of Vintage later this year. It's 22 oz, with a lifetime unlimited refil. And I have used and workd with Vintage before in my Detailing business.



Cheers

Larry B
 
I am not a dealer for Zymol.
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Well okay but you talked about being trained at the factory so it was a reasonable assumption. I also don't appreciate how you knock Souveran. Many of the experienced detailers here like myself believe it is in the same league as Zymol's pricey offerings based on tests.



I'm getting my $1852.00 container of Vintage later this year. It's 22 oz, with a lifetime unlimited refil.
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Two grand just strikes me and my friends as an absurd amount to spend on a jar of carnauba. It's just basic chemicals and some carnauba. I think the only positive thing I can say about that is that may be some good if misleading marketing for very high end detailers.
 
SilverLexus said:
Well okay but you talked about being trained at the factory so it was a reasonable assumption. I also don't appreciate how you knock Souveran. Many of the experienced detailers here like myself believe it is in the same league as Zymol's pricey offerings based on tests.







Two grand just strikes me and my friends as an absurd amount to spend on a jar of carnauba. It's just basic chemicals and some carnauba. I think the only positive thing I can say about that is that may be some good if misleading marketing for very high end detailers.
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Man some people read a lot into other peoples posts.

I never knocked Souveran. I actually said Souveran is a good wax. And I said that Zymol is a Great wax! That's what I said now twice. LOL



I don't hang around with friends with limited imaginations. I bartered a jar of Zymol Concours wax with a fellow autopian on this list ( Picus) of GTA In Detail, from Toronto Canada. The very next day he used the Zymol Concours on this Ferrari 360 Modena GTA In Detail then he used it on a Black Ford GT and others.

My friends think for themself and those who use Zymol know the diffrerence for themself.



Cheers,

Larry B
 
SilverLexus said:
I also don't appreciate how you knock Souveran.
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Not sure if we are reading the same thread, he never knocked souveran and actually said it was a good wax.



SilverLexus said:
Two grand just strikes me and my friends as an absurd amount to spend on a jar of carnauba. It's just basic chemicals and some carnauba.
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Did you miss the lifetime refills selling point?
 
FWIW, I've now tried Concours and Destiny. I'm an avid user of Souveran. I find the look of all three to be "different", which I prefer doesn't matter; which my customers prefer does. They all have their place.
 
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