Why does everyone use ONR?

[BlackElantraGT]

Today I decided to wash via ONR since my father in law's vehicle was washed just a few days ago, but we had some rain so I figured ONR would be perfect and quick for this situation. I made 2 gallons of the solution, so with the leftover I decided to wash my car also which was washed less than a week ago.



I'm not quick when it comes to doing anything, but even for me, ONR was MUCH quicker than conventional washing. One problem I did notice though was that on my car (which was dirtier), some of the bird bombs did not easily come off unless I rubbed it a lot harder with my mf towel. These weren't big bird bombs or anything, just a small yellow spot. After I had finished, there were still areas I had to spray with ONR QD and apply pressure to remove it.



I can see myself doing ONR washes more often, but only if it was a car that was maintained weekly. I still like using water pressure to get as much off as possible before doing the conventional wash.



Someone had a good analogy for ONR. It's like wiping yourself down with a wet rag instead of taking a shower. At some point, you have to take a shower.

 

[comnwealth]

Well I have not used ONR yet, but the order is on it's way. In the past I have used QEW, and like alot of people I was alittle shy at first. Come On, a wash without a rinse, can't be that good for the paint right. Well out came mom's test truck, I wasn't using this new "rinseless" product on my perfect paint. I have to tell you after the first use, all I could say was WOW. So much faster and I was amazed really at how well it cleaned. After a few more "test trails" I was sold, and I haven't looked back since. Just like Scott said, I would not think twice about using it on any high end car. ONR seems to be a better product then the older QEW, and I can't wait to try it . Speaking of which, where is the Da*m UPS man

 

[mgm2003]

I have cleaned over 11,000 cars since starting my detailing business and 95% of them have been with either QEW (the original rinseless wash) and ONR.

Not trying to take this off topic, but 11,000 cars!



Wow!



How many years have you been detailing professionally?

 

[Big Kahuna]

I clean my mitt with Woollite



Why a final rinse?

Well this method kind of defies the purpose of using a rinseless wash A problem with the method could be that the ONR will start to dry on the first panels, possibly trapping some dirt on the paint. You'll also be using more water, and since you add an extra step (the rinse step) it will even take longer too, so what's the advantage?

I know. Just that my brain is still stuck on the traditional wash method. This morning I put ONR into a sprayer and wiped it down with a wet mf towel followed by a dry mf. I was impressed. It actually felt like the mf was gliding on the finish. Amazing.



I just cleaned my mf with Tide-free.

 

[thesacrifice]

Words seems to be that there are polymers in ONR, which add to the gloss of your finish and slickness of paint.



Just be careful to dry it properly without too much delay as described above, or you'll have streaking and areas that are slightly dirty.

 

[57 wax]

That's the problem with detailers coming to my house .. I just can't stand having my driveway wet.. Thank God for Scottwax who understands the importance of a dry driveway !!!!!

 

[Accumulator]

Accumulator, you seem to have a ton of cars. You should post some of your work in Click&Brag. I agree with a lot of posts you make, so I would love to see your work.

Yeah, tell me about the ton of cars...just got the bill to renew the registration of them (and I don't even have the RX-7 titled)



I gotta get with the program Re digital imaging so I *can* get some in Click & Brag. Though I'll readily admit that at present none of them are (IMO) in especially brag-worthy condition Got too many of 'em for the amount of time I'm willing to put it and I haven't polished any of them (well, except the Blazer) for years. Even with my wash techniques they could use a bit of polishing before I said "gee, look at this"...heh heh, I oughta do less posting and more detailing :grinno:



thesacrifice- Nah, the A8 is ~OK other than the etching (which has been there for years- survived scary-aggressive rotary work and I'm not gonna wetsand it) and there's *NO* way I'm gonna risk doing anything that might mar it and precipitate a need for repolishing...it oughta look good enough for her (if not for Autopian eyes ) for another year or so with just rewaxing from time to time. I try to avoid polishing the Audis at all cost..it's just *such* a huge PIA. I'm continuing to experiment with the QEW on the M3, but it's not really getting dirty just sitting in the shop and it's truly *dirty* cars that I'm especially leery of washing with a rinseless (given my past experiences).

 

[Scottwax]

Not trying to take this off topic, but 11,000 cars!



Wow!



How many years have you been detailing professionally?

I started in late 1992 and went full time in April 1994.

 

[imported_Malachi]

Sometimes I don't think anything can beat the power of water pressure, even from a regular hose, let alone a pressure washer. There are plenty of crevices on a car that dirt and debris like to build up so I can't see a rinseless wash ever replacing that.

Scott, this has been my perception. I have only used ONR once to this point and wonder about crevices as shown below. Do you just load up the mitt more to make sure you get this clean?

 

[Scottwax]

I don't wring the pad out much when working on dirtier cars or crevices such as that. Regardless of wash method used, you are going have to agitate the area with some form of wash medium to get it clean. Simply spraying water at it won't clean it completely.

 

[imported_Malachi]

I don't wring the pad out much when working on dirtier cars or crevices such as that. Regardless of wash method used, you are going have to agitate the area with some form of wash medium to get it clean. Simply spraying water at it won't clean it completely.

Thank you. Do you feel you can apply and/or agitate the area as much with ONR as one could with a regular wash?



Let the countdown to 20,000 begin!

 

[Scottwax]

Thank you. Do you feel you can apply and/or agitate the area as much with ONR as one could with a regular wash?



Let the countdown to 20,000 begin!

ONR is as lubricious as anything else I have used,, so yet, you can agitate the area just as much. ONR has enough slickness at wash level that I can clay as I wash.



BTW, I am past 40,000 posts on another board...and I am something like only the top 175th poster there-some people are near 200,000 posts!

 

[DM101]

ONR is as lubricious as anything else I have used,, so yet, you can agitate the area just as much. ONR has enough slickness at wash level that I can clay as I wash.



BTW, I am past 40,000 posts on another board...and I am something like only the top 175th poster there-some people are near 200,000 posts!

Scottwax, What board would that be. I really love this site and would like to gain more knowledge. You never know "everything" ....

 

[silkstone]

used some ONR today to mop the kitchen floor, cleaned well, left very little residue. Wasn't toxic, or strong smelling in the house. Worth it, just for that !!!

 

[Scottwax]

Scottwax, What board would that be. I really love this site and would like to gain more knowledge. You never know "everything" ....

Off Topic



Not a detailing site, the main forum is what would be the Club House here, the sub forums are more specialized.

 

[Roger V]

Kind of a random question, but when using MF to dry after ONR how often should I wash the microfiber?

 

[Woob]

Off Topic



Not a detailing site, the main forum is what would be the Club House here, the sub forums are more specialized.

This post is hilarious funny for some reason. :chuckle: :grinno:

 

[Zet]

Kind of a random question, but when using MF to dry after ONR how often should I wash the microfiber?

You'll be using several MF towels to dry the car, especially if the car is somewhat dirty. Since the car is not rinsed using ONR, a lot of the dirt gets picked up by the drying towel. If I'm washing a just slightly dirty car I can get by with just two towels, one WW MF towel and one regular MF towel for wiping after the WW. I always wash all towels after washing a car whether its a regular wash or ONR.

 

[imported_Malachi]

What happens if you leave ONR on too long before you dry it?



Edit: Does it leave the paint cloudy? Or does it leave the paint cloudy if you do not dry entirely?

 

[Scottwax]

What happens if you leave ONR on too long before you dry it?



Edit: Does it leave the paint cloudy? Or does it leave the paint cloudy if you do not dry entirely?

It'll leave a film that easily washes off with ONR.