Where to buy Menzerna FMJ?

r12rex

New member
Hey guys,



I'm going to be trying out some Menzerna products for my STi in Obsidian Black Pearl.



What products do you guys recommend?





Here is a list I composed to purchase...please *edit if need be...



PO91L OR PO85RD 3.01 (Which of the two should I get?)

PO106FF

PO85RD FP



Does that look right? Am I missing something? Should I remove one from the list?



Kind Regards,

Ryan
 
I think you would be good with PO83Q (Super Intensive polish), and PO106FF (Nano Polish). I was under the impression that PO85RD was replaced by PO106FF?? Am I wrong?
 
P085RD is still out there. 106FF(nano) is just P085RD with a wee bit more abrasives added and a bit more lube so you can work it longer since it's designed to cut more/longer than P085RD.



It's getting harder to obtain true P085RD. SOme sites do have it but you have to pay $$. Or go across the pond to England to obtain it.



As for selection, SIP, or Powergloss, IP and any of the fine finish polishes will do you well. You now have to match up pads to product and machine.



I normally use nothing else than Menzerna and have gallons of 106FF. Nice to have full gallon containers of this.



Regards,

Deanski
 
Thanks guys! What kind of pads are you using with a Porter Cable and these products?



So the consensus is...???



PO85RD or PO106FF??

PO83Q



and
 
there is a website that has menzerna produts for very cheap....its called attention to detail the ship overnite.......there is only 3 produts get them all, specially for a black car, if you have swirs or hallagrams, the compund will take care of it at about 1200, and then follow with the intesive polish at 1000 and finally give it a bath with some menzerna glaze with a porter cable and just go over your fine lines and your going to have a nice wet and hotrod look, make sure you have a mister so in case the menzerna dry's on you, you can mist some water and it can get wet again, you dont need to much......this menzerna produts are the best out there for black cars, I have try everything, this is the only polish and compound I use.......good luck
 
landcruiser said:
Another good source and good service too



detailersdomain.com



I thought PO85RD wasn't available in the states? Is this a legitimate and reputable company? If so, is this version 3.02?



I haven't been keeping up with the menzerna line so I apologize if I'm off base.
 
Guys, you're getting PO85RD confused with PO85RD3.01 and PO85RD3.02



PO85RD is a finishing polish similar to PO106ff.



PO85RD3.01 is the original ceramiclear version of Intensive Polish. It is sold in the U.S., and is also rebranded as Blackfire Scratch Resistant Compound.



PO85RD3.02 is the new version, and it is the one that is not available in the U.S.



Here's the description of PO85RD from detailersdomain.com:



"<TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR><TD>Product Details </TD></TR><TR><TD><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="97%" align=right border=0><TBODY><TR><TD>Menzerna Final Finish PO85RD is an ultra fine finishing polish designed to leave paint with the highest levels of gloss possible.



Like the Menzerna Intensive Polish PO83 this was developed my Menzerna for the new breed of Scratch Resistant Coatings which are being introduced by many of the major paint manufacturers. It contains super fine uniform micro polishing grains to safely and effectively remove very fine 3000 grit marks from paint such as holograming and marring from more abrasive compounds. As such this is in our opinion the finest finishing polish there is, it leaves paint with so much depth and a mirror like gloss it's sometimes hard to believe. For both professionals and enthusists that strive for perfection this is a must have product.



This polish is unique to the Menzerna professional range and is so special they have kept it for themselves.



* Professional grade polish that will deliver stunning results.

* Bodyshop safe formula contains no fillers, silicones, waxes or glazes.

* Easy to apply and remove with less dust.



Cut: 1.5 (Max: 5.0)

Gloss: 5.0+ (Max:5.0) "



Detailersdomain.com also sells the original PO85RD3.01. Here's their product description, important points are in bold:



"<TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR><TD>Product Details </TD></TR><TR><TD><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="97%" align=right border=0><TBODY><TR><TD>Menzerna Super Intensive Polish is designed for the removal of scratches, swirls, and oxidation on the scratch-resistant clear coats used by Mercedes Benz. Concentrated, specially milled abrasives remove 2000 grit sanding scratches to leave a brilliant shine with little or no hazing.



Note: Menzena Super Intensive Polish also goes by the part number Menzerna PO85RD 3.01 but it has been shortened to PO83 for simplicity by Menzerna USA, the US distribution office for Menzerna Polishes.



At the end of 2003, Mercedes Benz put into production a new scratch-resistant clear coat lacquer made up of nano-sized ceramic particles, which are baked and hardened in the paint shop oven, just like you would bake pottery in a kiln. This process results in an extensively cross-linked, very hard paint finish that stands up better to mechanical car washes and day to day abuse. This clear coat, called CeramiClear from PPG, is the only nanotechnology clear coat used on Mercedes production lines and is approved for the repair of Mercedes and Nissans.



The problem with the ceramic clear coat is that it is harder to correct than the comparatively soft clear coats used by most other car manufacturers. Ceramic paint can still scratch; just not as easily. When a scratch does occur, not all the polishes on the market are capable of removing it from the new, hard-as-a-rock clear coats.



Menzerna Super Intensive Polish is formulated specifically for the new ceramic, scratch-resistant clear coats. Menzerna developed a new family of abrasives that are better able to penetrate the hard paint and level imperfections. Super Intensive Polish is the most aggressive of this new breed of polishes, capable of removing 2000 grit sanding scratches.



Though this is a powerful polish, Menzerna Super Intensive Polish produces virtually no dust or haze. The polish contains a high concentration of small abrasives, which allows the polish to work cleaner. The tiny abrasives blend away imperfections using consistent abrasive action, meaning the hundreds of abrasives are repeatedly passing over the blemish to gradually eliminate it. The results are smooth, glossy, haze-free paint.



On most paints, you can go straight from Menzerna Super Intensive Polish to finishing with a wax or sealant without any steps in between. It leaves such a deep gloss, there is no need for a finishing polish in many cases.



Note: Dark paints may require follow up with a finer polish. Use Menzerna Nano Polish, which is also formulated for scratch-resistant clear coats.



Menzerna Super Intensive Polish can be used on all types of paint, including conventional clear coats. Use it on fresh paint finishes (once fully cured) to eliminate any swirls or overspray. On older paint finishes, Menzerna Super Intensive Polish will remove moderate imperfections and refresh the color.



Menzerna Super Intensive Polish contains no silicone, waxes, fillers, or glaze. It is a water-based pure polish, which makes it ideal for a body shop or paint shop environment.



In the final analysis, Menzerna Super Intensive Polish is a step beyond the average polish in terms of cutting ability but its clean, haze-free finish is definitely representative of a polish. Regardless of its classification, it is the best choice for polishing and paint correction on todays hard, ceramic clear coats."



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Menzerna's line of products are so confusing...:lol:. There are so many of them.





Anyway,



what kind of pads are you guys having great success with when using their products?





I'm still debating whether to get PO85RD or PO106FF

I'll probably get some FMJ as well





???
 
Or, try this 3 step approach:

Proper Auto Care recommends:

Step 1 - Menzerna PO106FF Polish using the White pads

(Polish)



Step 2 - Menzerna Finishing Touch Glaze using the Black pads

(Glaze)



Step 3 - Menzerna Full Molecular Jacket using the Red pads

(Seal)

Roger
 
I wouldn't waste your money on FMJ. Don't get me wrong, it looks great and is easy as you could imagine to apply and remove. However, it has NO DURABILITY. I wouldn't want to see you spend all that time polishing only to apply an LSP that lasts about as long as it takes you to put your buffer away. I used FMJ exclusively for 2 years. Then I found this site and tried other products that blew it away and I never went back.



Patrick
 
r12rex said:
Menzerna's line of products are so confusing...:lol:. There are so many of them.





Anyway,



what kind of pads are you guys having great success with when using their products?





I'm still debating whether to get PO85RD or PO106FF

I'll probably get some FMJ as well





???



PO85RD is a finer cut than PO106FF. If your finish is darn near flawless, and you don't have to remove any polishing marks from using a more aggressive polish, then I think you'd be happy with PO85RD. It won't remove compounding marks as well as 106ff.



Sometimes it takes me several applications of 106ff to remove compounding marks. It would take more applications of po85rd to accomplish the same thing.



So, unless you are polishing an already flawless finish, I'd go with the 106ff.
 
ptaylor_9849 said:
I wouldn't waste your money on FMJ. Don't get me wrong, it looks great and is easy as you could imagine to apply and remove. However, it has NO DURABILITY. I wouldn't want to see you spend all that time polishing only to apply an LSP that lasts about as long as it takes you to put your buffer away. I used FMJ exclusively for 2 years. Then I found this site and tried other products that blew it away and I never went back.



Patrick



FMJ gives and incredible gloss and slickness but doesn't last as long as I'd like. It's good to have in my arsenal for times I want the look it provides and it is SO easy to use. I'd think of it more as a fun topper (like carnuba) than as your go to sealant. I've spent several hours polishing/detailing loved ones' cars and finishing w/ FMJ only to see their car a few weeks later and it feels totally flat. It's a nice product but pretty fleeting...
 
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