Turtle Wax Seal and Shine vs IGL Premier

[rlmccarty2000]

Ok, we got a sprinkle of rain last night and it dried leaving spots on all three LSPs, BUT the TW S&S had way less spotting than Premier.

All spots came off effortlessly with a quick wash with McKees 914.

As Loach predicted my gloss numbers jumped back to where I expected them to be.

The IGL Premier side still was higher in GUs but not by much.

I took several readings and they were all in the same range.

Now if TW S&S holds on to its durability like I know IGL Premier does TW S&S should be considered the bargain of the decade. Only time will tell. I got my hopes dashed with the Mother’s product, I’m not giving out my stamp of approval before it produces durability wise.

Many thanks to Loach for the tip on washing bringing out the gloss. I was always under the impression a fresh coat of LSP was glossier than after a wash. Learn something new every day!


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[tul9033]

Is there a topper or QD to be used on the TW S&S after washes? Or just more S&S? I have dark blue paint and want that deep dark shine on the cheap!

 

[dwaleke]

Turtle Wax Ice Spray Wax for after washes.

They have an ice quick detailer as well.

 

[TheMeanGreen]

Is there a topper or QD to be used on the TW S&S after washes? Or just more S&S? I have dark blue paint and want that deep dark shine on the cheap!

Turtle Wax Ice Spray Wax gives S&S a nice pop, but I`ve noticed that the Ice Spray Detailer gives the most pop, relatively speaking. These TW Ice products are in no way show stoppers, but they are pretty stellar performers for their price points and availability. While I go back to University, for at least this next year alone, I will be using the Ice products as they are super friendly to my wallet. For the contextually *deep dark shine on the cheap*, I would recommend a layer of the Ice Spray Wax and then a layer of the Ice Spray Detailer, and then you can maintain those top coats however you want, because they are supposedly (TW bottles) layer-able.

 

[Accumulator]

TheMeanGreen- Hey, that was a good summary of the ICE products!

 

[TheMeanGreen]

TheMeanGreen- Hey, that was a good summary of the ICE products!

Here`s what the Ice products look like on my car, the photos are about 85% accurate of real life. Below the layers of S&S, Ice Spray Wax, and Ice Spray detailer, there could be layer of Carpro Essence and FK BWM 101: High-Temp Paste Wax (commonly referred to as FK1000P). I think I`ve killed off the FK1000P at the start of the summer (applied in March), and maybe the Essence. However when I do my decon washes, I am still left with hydrophobic water behavior, I just apply the next product over the last until the car gets polished next. A quick polish usually happens once every year and a half. Nonetheless, these Ice products are decent, many pro`s and con`s, but the pro`s slightly out weigh the con`s.

To bring the discussion back to topic, the claims that the S&S can reduce gloss possibly due to being relatively thick, I would agree. It wasn`t until the additional layers of Ice Spray Wax and Ice Detailer that the gloss started to come back (all without washing the car to reset the S&S).

 

[acuRAS82]

This is a great thread, thanks to all. Keep the updates coming, RLM!

 

[Accumulator]

TheMeanGreen- TBH, internet pix seldom tell me anything other than "yep, another nice pic of a well-detailed car" (and yours sure does look swell! The tires, of all things, really impressed me, some Michelins can be problematic IME). But with a black car in that kind of shape I bet you do notice tiny diffs IRL and I`ll happily take your (emphasis on "your" ) word for how everything worked out.

Of course what I noted was that the FK didn`t last as long as I would`ve expected/hoped, but anyhow...

Does the diminished gloss actually "make the car look worse" or, at least on black, does it make things look *better* in that "depth/jetting instead of just brightly glossy" type of way?

 

[acuRAS82]

Does the diminished gloss actually "make the car look worse" or, at least on black, does it make things look *better* in that "depth/jetting instead of just brightly glossy" type of way?

This is exactly right. Carnauba tends to reduce gloss but no doubt it adds that depth. Some black paints also look great with the high gloss shiny look. There’s more than a few ways to skin a ca... er, make a car look good.

 

[Accumulator]

acuRAS82- IME that can be a genuine concern even with seemingly similar LSPs, so I wondered if it`d work out that way with the ICE products/

Like...P21s and Souveran didn`t seem like they`d be *that* different, but the former looked *WAY* too bright/reflective/etc. on my Jag, had to strip it off (and I`ve only done that a few times in my life). This "little difference" factor is why I never cared for the signature look of Zaino even though I`m OK with FK1000P (even on dark colors, didn`t expect to like that). Sometimes "less shiny" is indeed a feature, well..at least to my eyes.