845 still hasn't come yet plus it's been raining like nuts here so I don't really mind. I don't know about California winters or Tahoe but we use an awful lot of salt up here in MA (I'm sure Tahoe does too). It's my first time using something like the 845 so we'll see come spring time. Thanks!
The Winter "Wax" Quagmire
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bill buxton
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Winter wax
I guess I am also happy to see so many using 845 in the foul winter weather. I have used the 845 on a regular basis summer and winter. I have also acquired a large supply of other so called great waxes. The problem is as many have said they don't last! I love to keep my stuff nice and shinny but, don't wanna wax every week because things don't last. I wash by hand 2-3 times per week so this also plays a part in longevity with any product. I also find the 845 is easy to apply via PC. You can control the amount of product per panel (after priming the pad).
I use the 845 every month or two in the winter just to keep up on things so I have no idea if it will last all winter or not. This is also true with many products I have here, how would a person ever know how long things last. This said the reason is I never go more than 6-8 weeks before a reapplication of something.
Nattys wax is great but it will not last through 1-2 washes imho but its easy to apply. Duragloss is another talked about product I have never used. I also like PRO YELLOW WAX it seems to last a while but needs to be applied thin, or is a bear to remove. BFWD is a super easy product to use but my problem after 24 hrs of application I always top with a wax. I guess as long as I am applying wax-sealant to the surface I should be ok, but it does get old after a while also...
I guess I am also happy to see so many using 845 in the foul winter weather. I have used the 845 on a regular basis summer and winter. I have also acquired a large supply of other so called great waxes. The problem is as many have said they don't last! I love to keep my stuff nice and shinny but, don't wanna wax every week because things don't last. I wash by hand 2-3 times per week so this also plays a part in longevity with any product. I also find the 845 is easy to apply via PC. You can control the amount of product per panel (after priming the pad).
I use the 845 every month or two in the winter just to keep up on things so I have no idea if it will last all winter or not. This is also true with many products I have here, how would a person ever know how long things last. This said the reason is I never go more than 6-8 weeks before a reapplication of something.
Nattys wax is great but it will not last through 1-2 washes imho but its easy to apply. Duragloss is another talked about product I have never used. I also like PRO YELLOW WAX it seems to last a while but needs to be applied thin, or is a bear to remove. BFWD is a super easy product to use but my problem after 24 hrs of application I always top with a wax. I guess as long as I am applying wax-sealant to the surface I should be ok, but it does get old after a while also...
imported_outlawtim
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Winter Wax
I live in North Carolina and I wash my truck 2 times a week and Wax it at least two times a month, All products that were mentioned are good, I have used 845, Pro Yellow Wax, all of Duragloss, Production products, Ardex. and others. Had a guy semd me some Purple Blaze from Auto Magic the other day. It is like a Express wax. I am in Business for myself detailing so I have used alot of different products. Love doing what I do and I enjoy making sure that that my customers cars are in good shape for winter. Love using my Porter Cable Rotary, and my 15# Gem orbital.And with those tools and foam pads and good products you can be ready for the winter for sure.
I live in North Carolina and I wash my truck 2 times a week and Wax it at least two times a month, All products that were mentioned are good, I have used 845, Pro Yellow Wax, all of Duragloss, Production products, Ardex. and others. Had a guy semd me some Purple Blaze from Auto Magic the other day. It is like a Express wax. I am in Business for myself detailing so I have used alot of different products. Love doing what I do and I enjoy making sure that that my customers cars are in good shape for winter. Love using my Porter Cable Rotary, and my 15# Gem orbital.And with those tools and foam pads and good products you can be ready for the winter for sure.
bill buxton
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3 coats now
Just added coat #3 on the truck this afternoon wow it looks great. I have found you might want to prime your finish pad with 845. Then run out 2-3 panels and see what that looks like via the PC. I have done both hand and PC applications and will say its great using the machine. You will get a thin even coat that way for sure. Remember thin and don't over saturate the pad just turn the bottle upside down 3-4 spots on the pad. And yes SHAKE THE STUFF SILLY BEFORE USING IT...
Just added coat #3 on the truck this afternoon wow it looks great. I have found you might want to prime your finish pad with 845. Then run out 2-3 panels and see what that looks like via the PC. I have done both hand and PC applications and will say its great using the machine. You will get a thin even coat that way for sure. Remember thin and don't over saturate the pad just turn the bottle upside down 3-4 spots on the pad. And yes SHAKE THE STUFF SILLY BEFORE USING IT...
imported_TLMitchell
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Re: 845
It took years but I'm finally down the bottle halfway and the IW pours almost like water. I stuck a pop-up lid on it long ago.. my method of application has evolved over the years and I now dribble a dozen or so small dots around the hood in addition to priming the applicator pad. Once the hood is done the hand applicator or the machine pad has enough 845 on it I rarely have to add more than a drop or two for each surface. I usually do all the top surfaces then remove, one whole side, then remove, then the other side... lather, rinse repeat. Last up is bumpers, grill, door jams etc. Then the shiney black plastic surfaces followed by an immediate wipe-off. After 30+ years of using the stuff I think I've finally got the hang of it.
I've got no clue how long the stuff lasts, I know I've gone through an entiure winter without a touchup. I use DGAW on occasion to renew the shine and slickness so there's no telling where the DGAW ends and the 845IW begins. Absolutely stunning on white!
TL
It took years but I'm finally down the bottle halfway and the IW pours almost like water. I stuck a pop-up lid on it long ago.. my method of application has evolved over the years and I now dribble a dozen or so small dots around the hood in addition to priming the applicator pad. Once the hood is done the hand applicator or the machine pad has enough 845 on it I rarely have to add more than a drop or two for each surface. I usually do all the top surfaces then remove, one whole side, then remove, then the other side... lather, rinse repeat. Last up is bumpers, grill, door jams etc. Then the shiney black plastic surfaces followed by an immediate wipe-off. After 30+ years of using the stuff I think I've finally got the hang of it.
I've got no clue how long the stuff lasts, I know I've gone through an entiure winter without a touchup. I use DGAW on occasion to renew the shine and slickness so there's no telling where the DGAW ends and the 845IW begins. Absolutely stunning on white!
TL
Re: 845
It took years but I'm finally down the bottle halfway and the IW pours almost like water. I stuck a pop-up lid on it long ago.. my method of application has evolved over the years and I now dribble a dozen or so small dots around the hood in addition to priming the applicator pad. Once the hood is done the hand applicator or the machine pad has enough 845 on it I rarely have to add more than a drop or two for each surface. I usually do all the top surfaces then remove, one whole side, then remove, then the other side... lather, rinse repeat. Last up is bumpers, grill, door jams etc. Then the shiney black plastic surfaces followed by an immediate wipe-off. After 30+ years of using the stuff I think I've finally got the hang of it.
I've got no clue how long the stuff lasts, I know I've gone through an entiure winter without a touchup. I use DGAW on occasion to renew the shine and slickness so there's no telling where the DGAW ends and the 845IW begins. Absolutely stunning on white!
TL
Hey TL,
You must be THEE most experienced 845 expert on the planet, so you must be the person to ask-- What materials should one avoid putting 845 on?
I'm going to be cleaning (waterspots) and waxing my brother's boat tomorrow, it's mostly painted fiberglass, but there are various trim parts.
Hopefully I will get the trailer done also.
Dan
bill buxton
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It works on everything
Not to jump someones play here, It works on anything you would use wax on. It looks good on chrome, painted surfaces, wheels as a sealer, the stuff is great...
ancing Dot: :clap:
Not to jump someones play here, It works on anything you would use wax on. It looks good on chrome, painted surfaces, wheels as a sealer, the stuff is great...
ancing Dot: :clap:imported_User Name
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Just put 3 layers of Zfx'd Z2Pro on my car yesterday which will be my winter wax.
We've had such an amazing weekend (high in the mid 70's today) that I doubt I will see another day like this until spring, so if I can get 5 months out of it, for the Canadian winter, I will be thrilled.
We've had such an amazing weekend (high in the mid 70's today) that I doubt I will see another day like this until spring, so if I can get 5 months out of it, for the Canadian winter, I will be thrilled.
I got the 845 the other day finally and had a chance to wash and apply today and I'm pretty damn impressed at how easy it was to remove. It took me about an hour and a half via MF hand applicator, not bad. This of course is over BFWD, 2nd coat will go on after next wash. Thanks to everyone who recommended/helped me on this!
I agree. Most Megs is junk and I have moved on. That said, I still use their #16 in the winter. It is not made anymore, but I still have a few cans of it, and it turns up for sale on the net now and then. I live in the north and drive into Canada. Talk about salt in the winter in both countries. I put the #16 on mid October and it still beads like crazy at the end of March. Beautiful stuff for black cars.
Hey, it is mid October..... time for a winter wax.
imported_User Name
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Even though BFWD is my favorite LSP (by a mile) I once did a wax test which included NXT 2.0 vs. a bunch of boutique products and it peformed better than most in many areas (including durability and certainly slickness). The only product which performed at par with it, was 845iw.
Everything else seemed pretty abysmal.
Having said that, what I don't like about NXT 2.0 is that is stains trim and once you've used BFWD, everything else seems IMPOSSIBLE to put on and take off.
BFWD is the most idiot proof LSP I've ever used and that is pretty important to me because I'm a pretty big idiot.
supercharged
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Menzerna Power Lock is even more idiot proof, application is even easier.
imported_User Name
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Haven't tried it, so I can't say, although I'm open to anything.
Freddotron
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What is the best way to wash your car in the winter? Normally I use a DIY carwash with only the pressure washer in town.
also, as an alternative to picking a wax to last all year, I'd be willing to have a wax/ sealant that I could apply through the winter. Are there any spray sealants that definatley work at sub freezing and possibly even near zero?
also, as an alternative to picking a wax to last all year, I'd be willing to have a wax/ sealant that I could apply through the winter. Are there any spray sealants that definatley work at sub freezing and possibly even near zero?
bmw5541
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I live in NJ, so the winters get pretty bad here (not as bad as other parts of the country, but bad nonetheless). As long as the temps are above 32*F, I do an ONR wash. If the car is covered with salt and all the other winter mess, I will go to a DIY wash and use the power washer to blast away the crud, and then come home to do my ONR wash. I am not sure if much will work in sub freezing temps. There are always a few days during the winter that are above freezing, so use those days if possible. Optimum Car Wax is a great spray wax. Or you can try to put a spray top on a bottle of 845, as I have seen someone on TID do.
Freddotron
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My problem is that a lot of the above freezing days here are rainy and nasty to work in. I'll have to get some ONR and get some practice with it.
How would optiseal do through winter?
I'm in central Ontario BTW
bmw5541
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ONR is something that every detailer should have in their arsonal. It is a great product that has many uses, and is really very easy to use. There are quite a few threads on ONR, so look them up and try one of the methods that looks good to you. Frankly, I would do a complete Fall detail, and seal it with a least 2 coats of BFWD, and then top it with Collinite 845IW. Give it at least 2 coats of the 845, and you should be set for the winter. If you want to give it a spruce up during the winter, just do it on a slightly warmer day.
The Opti-Seal is easy to use, but the durability could be better. Also, I am not sure that you would be able to use it on a freezing day.
Freddotron
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Thanks for your help Barry
bmw5541
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Any time!!