imported_detailchick
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I would start posting more if at least one person would post a shirtless deatiling pic! Muscleman
PAC and TID Status?
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imported_CH.Detailing
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Oooh, I don't think you want to see that. Right now I have a sunburn in the shape of a T-shirt on me, it's not a pretty sight. X_X
Although... you could start the trend, DC! :thumbup:
Although... you could start the trend, DC! :thumbup:
Todd@RUPES
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I plan on posting here as long as here is here. I love TID, I have been here since the forum started. Even though this was one of my job duties at PAC, it never was work.. It was more like a break from work.
imported_detailchick
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I would but I think it against the rules :biggrin:
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Well that's just a double standard. :judge:
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imported_Bunky
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Now properautocare.com gets redirected to autopia car care site now so who is supporting TID? The silence continues.
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I noticed that today. Maybe Max is supporting the forum. Maybe Todd is. Who knows, the silence is weird though.
imported_Bunky
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I actually fully expected the url redirect when Max got the Black Fire line and now the url. I just wonder why the silence but then the whole mess was more silence than information.
imported_Mr. Gloss
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Redirecting to Autopia Car Care was the sensible thing to do. At least new prospects are captured for business.
There is competition out there. A vendor is shipping for $3 today and $4 tomorrow. No minimum.
There is competition out there. A vendor is shipping for $3 today and $4 tomorrow. No minimum.
imported_jlineman
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I as well feel comfortable here with you guys and all the expertise you bring to this forum. If this dies a slow death and everyone drifts somewhere else I guess I'll follow. Just to see what was there I tried to register at L2D three times but never got past the message about spammers, which I am not. And whats more there is no number to call for help to get registered. I filled out their little form but never got a reply. Whats the secret to registering? What I did see at L2D is horrible colors they chose for their background and print. Didn't like it much...to hard to read. I ran it by my son who does graphic design and he was amazed with the colors they chose...not visually easy on the eye. Much better here! Oh well
imported_detailchick
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I as well feel comfortable here with you guys and all the expertise you bring to this forum. If this dies a slow death and everyone drifts somewhere else I guess I'll follow. Just to see what was there I tried to register at L2D three times but never got past the message about spammers, which I am not. And whats more there is no number to call for help to get registered. I filled out their little form but never got a reply. Whats the secret to registering? What I did see at L2D is horrible colors they chose for their background and print. Didn't like it much...to hard to read. I ran it by my son who does graphic design and he was amazed with the colors they chose...not visually easy on the eye. Much better here! Oh well
Th owner over there just got back from vaca and is aware of the problem and trying to resolve it jlineman.
You can also highlite the words like you would for"copy/paste ' and it will be much easier on the eyes.
And that's why retailers are dropping like flies. Somebody has to pay that shipping cost and I would imagine that after ordering, say, one bottle of M105 the shipping is cutting into a big portion of the profit. The margins can't be that good.
Come in with a bang......go out with a bang.
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Exactly! :banghead:
imported_Mr. Gloss
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No, that's tainted thinking.
The vendors don't offer the low rate shipping on everyday purchases. It's a promotion. Low shipping rate promotions increase sales which increases the profits to pay for shipping. Gross profits are about 50% on most detail supplies. Boutique products are about 75% gross profits.
I'm sure DI and DD will continue to supply their customers for many years into the future.
Have you ever taken advantage of their offers? How many of you are guilty of burying PAC by taking advantage of its low shipping costs? FREE SHIPPING with $49 or more? Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
The vendors don't offer the low rate shipping on everyday purchases. It's a promotion. Low shipping rate promotions increase sales which increases the profits to pay for shipping. Gross profits are about 50% on most detail supplies. Boutique products are about 75% gross profits.
I'm sure DI and DD will continue to supply their customers for many years into the future.
Have you ever taken advantage of their offers? How many of you are guilty of burying PAC by taking advantage of its low shipping costs? FREE SHIPPING with $49 or more? Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
imported_qaz393
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you have some really great article in the shine institute here, can you post them on the other forum incase this website goes??
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Edit: Deleted my post.
Not worth speculating anymore. Moving on....
Not worth speculating anymore. Moving on....
Jack Kruer
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Jack, TID, Blackfire etc... etc...
I would like to take this time to finally address all of the members of TID. While this is perhaps slower coming than some would have liked, I ask for understanding of the situation at hand. It has been a very long month. I have spent the past 4-5 weeks dis-mantling PAC. It has been a tough task to say the least. I have likened it to going to a funeral that last for thirty days.
I wanted to reflect on my experience here and all of the friends I have made. The final decision to end PAC as a business was one, while hard to make, was felt necessary for people that had much at stake. Some people agreed and others did not. Ultimately the decision was made and I felt a responsibility to see the task through.
The realities are that when I came to this company, on a business level, it had issues I nor anyone one else involved with the ownership were aware of. Over time and with a steep learning curve, we did make positive changes and we did have some successful additions, Blackfire, Meguiar's, TID, Todd, Angelo as well as some long needed advertising ventures. All of this was not enough to change the tide of the slow economy and the expense of running a business like this.
As to the closing of the business and the and the manufacturers we have all come to know and love, none are being left in the cold, (regardless of what some may say). We are working with all of them to have them paid in full by the end of this month, (a unique concept these days of companies going out of business).
One of the successes we enjoyed was of course Blackfire. Over the course of the past three years we worked very hard to make more people aware of this line of products. I believe, still one of the best available. I have arranged to have a hand in its future and hope to continue to make it a respected line of products in any way I am able. Through an agreement between myself and Palm Beach Motoring Group, I have insured its availability and a viable future. While some may see this as a ?cop-out? on my part, it isn't. It was a decision made after much thought and consideration. Should some still choose to believe otherwise, I of course cannot change what people choose to believe. Look at all of the BS on forums today... someone, somewhere, thinks they have all the answers.
With Todd overseeing the direction and quality of the line, I am confident that with his passion and the tools available to him, the line will only become stronger. Far stronger than I could do by myself.
That brings me to TID. Something I am quite proud of. We grew this community to over 4500 members in a relatively short time. We had very few drama issues, many open product and process discussions and I made one heck of a lot of friends. I probably loved this part of the business the most for the interaction with all of you. It is my understanding that TID will go on hiatus for some time until an ultimate decision can be made as to its future. If you have anything here you want to save, you should get it soon. I hopefully will see some of you down the road, God bless and take care.
The last item I would like to address is I would like to personally thank Bob McKee for his support in this incredibly stressful time. While again some may find this weird or self-serving, think what you want. It has been an interesting lesson for me. Bob has been one of the most professional and supportive people of anyone I have had to deal with in the past month. I think it comes from the fact that until you own a business like this and truly understand how hard it is to run one, much less be successful at it, that you can fully appreciate and understand the true meaning when one fails. For this I am thankful and have no problem is saying I have new found respect for him.
Again, thank you all, see you down the road and God bless.
jk
I would like to take this time to finally address all of the members of TID. While this is perhaps slower coming than some would have liked, I ask for understanding of the situation at hand. It has been a very long month. I have spent the past 4-5 weeks dis-mantling PAC. It has been a tough task to say the least. I have likened it to going to a funeral that last for thirty days.
I wanted to reflect on my experience here and all of the friends I have made. The final decision to end PAC as a business was one, while hard to make, was felt necessary for people that had much at stake. Some people agreed and others did not. Ultimately the decision was made and I felt a responsibility to see the task through.
The realities are that when I came to this company, on a business level, it had issues I nor anyone one else involved with the ownership were aware of. Over time and with a steep learning curve, we did make positive changes and we did have some successful additions, Blackfire, Meguiar's, TID, Todd, Angelo as well as some long needed advertising ventures. All of this was not enough to change the tide of the slow economy and the expense of running a business like this.
As to the closing of the business and the and the manufacturers we have all come to know and love, none are being left in the cold, (regardless of what some may say). We are working with all of them to have them paid in full by the end of this month, (a unique concept these days of companies going out of business).
One of the successes we enjoyed was of course Blackfire. Over the course of the past three years we worked very hard to make more people aware of this line of products. I believe, still one of the best available. I have arranged to have a hand in its future and hope to continue to make it a respected line of products in any way I am able. Through an agreement between myself and Palm Beach Motoring Group, I have insured its availability and a viable future. While some may see this as a ?cop-out? on my part, it isn't. It was a decision made after much thought and consideration. Should some still choose to believe otherwise, I of course cannot change what people choose to believe. Look at all of the BS on forums today... someone, somewhere, thinks they have all the answers.
With Todd overseeing the direction and quality of the line, I am confident that with his passion and the tools available to him, the line will only become stronger. Far stronger than I could do by myself.
That brings me to TID. Something I am quite proud of. We grew this community to over 4500 members in a relatively short time. We had very few drama issues, many open product and process discussions and I made one heck of a lot of friends. I probably loved this part of the business the most for the interaction with all of you. It is my understanding that TID will go on hiatus for some time until an ultimate decision can be made as to its future. If you have anything here you want to save, you should get it soon. I hopefully will see some of you down the road, God bless and take care.
The last item I would like to address is I would like to personally thank Bob McKee for his support in this incredibly stressful time. While again some may find this weird or self-serving, think what you want. It has been an interesting lesson for me. Bob has been one of the most professional and supportive people of anyone I have had to deal with in the past month. I think it comes from the fact that until you own a business like this and truly understand how hard it is to run one, much less be successful at it, that you can fully appreciate and understand the true meaning when one fails. For this I am thankful and have no problem is saying I have new found respect for him.
Again, thank you all, see you down the road and God bless.
jk
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Good Luck Jack!
imported_Bunky
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Thank you Jack. I appreciate it.