Optimum Rejiggers Its Spray Polish Line Again?

Lake Country's Purple Foam Wool pad from at least 10 years ago, has always been great at cutting and finishing down nicely with my Makita 9227C even on nasty Imron Airplane Paint..

Their Cyan Hydro-Shred pad is also very, very, good at cutting and really finishes down sometimes LSP ready on some paintwork..
I use lots of these pads with the aforementioned Makita and have yet to beat this combo..
Dan F
 
I actually think Ray is pretty on top of that, he put the Griot's BOSS products in there not too long ago.

Nice, I see the updated ones now that I've opened it after a month I guess.. A few to add would be:

Dodo Juice Lime prime Plus
M305
Sonax ex4/6 (its prior 4/6 version doesn't seem to be listed correctly)
Sonax cutmax
Chemical guys V32
Wolfgang Uber AIO is at a surprising 6 level cut ( I thought it was a fine cut polish)

Not nitpicking but just being thorough and ensuring completeness to a chart thats goto for many..

On a side note, not sure why AG didn't expand the Scholl concepts line further as its newer offerings (most of which are not offered on AG) are top notch.. S3XXL, S17+ and the latest S20 BLACK (which is making the rounds to be the king of one steppers with a high cut)... Although I did notice yesterday AG added the spider pads, so possibly more products from the range will follow...
 
I am sure I remember Chris Thomas saying the Hyper Polish was a tad less aggressive than their Polish II but cannot find the reference.

There is probably some creative alternative to the awful spray heads which would not doubt boost sales although I do not have a solution
 
Moving away from spray, I am "guessing" the carpro ceriglass type dispensing bottles (available with Corey) would help.


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I know this doesn't align exactly with some of the information above, but RON@OPTIMUM posted the following information on their own forum recently.

Optimum Polish "cut scale":
Poli-Seal, Finish 2
GPS 3
Polish ll 4
Hyper Polish, Primer 5
Compound ll, Intensive Polish 8
Hyper Compound 10

Yes, Primer began life as Hyper Polish and was tweaked to support Coating bonding. I'd guess GPS will have about half the correction of Hyper Polish.
 
Hyper Polish has been the best overall polish for me. It just outperforms heavy hitters like HD Polish, M205, CarPro Reflect, Menzerna 4000. And with no dusting and super easy wipe off I find myself just skipping over the others and starting with HP. I HAVE NEVER HAD AN ISSUE WITH THE SPRAYER.
 
Hyper Polish has been the best overall polish for me. It just outperforms heavy hitters like HD Polish, M205, CarPro Reflect, Menzerna 4000. And with no dusting and super easy wipe off I find myself just skipping over the others and starting with HP. I HAVE NEVER HAD AN ISSUE WITH THE SPRAYER.

+1 for the above post from 52split ---

Optimum Hyper Polish is really good and has always been an easy decision on about anything that fits the criteria...
This product will work as long as you want it to, so with my Makita, thats not very long before I am finished and it's LSP ready..

And I have had nothing but trouble with the nozzle of the sprayer - guess I should probably wash it out really good after using it and it will then be ok ?
In the meantime I just shook the heck out of the spray bottle and poured it into a nice Meguiars clear plastic bottle with the flip top...
Dan F
 
For Hyper Blue you can totally use a squeeze/dispenser bottle. I just spray dots and go since you don't need much product.
 
The new compound cuts fast, and works some nice correction. It is NOT asdust free as the old compound which is understandable as less lubrication means a better cut the offset being it dries faster.

I have tested several versions of the compound and the one selling now performed best in overall cut, lubrication and clean up. do recommend cleaning up all overspray though as it can dry and be extra work removing splatter.

Keep a water bottle close by, work the compound well and lightly mist the panel, continue for just a couple of passes and remove. Compound works great with flat dense pads on Rupes, ZEntools and Flex's. On rotary orange cutting pads can finish down most paints, kick it up to a wool if needed but that's a rarity.

Hyper Polish, the blue version, is perhaps one of the most underrated polishes out there. People do not understand the workability of it and give up after a pass or two.

Also the spraying of the polish/compound gives the detailer a uniform lubricating barrier over the entire pad. This means a more even finish and ease of operation. Work until almost transparent and remove excess.

Try this one time.....Optimum compound and micropad or orange pad - cut paint and work until transparent. Do not remove residue. Spray polish, work in with a mid-polishing pad. Work until transparent, now remove excess OR spray panel with spray wax and remove. This works great on light cars for a quick 2-step with wax. Many dark colors may need a 3rd step with a finishing pad. I have finished cars out ending with Hyper Polish, spritzing panel with water and continue polish with finishing pad, then wipe excess then seal paint.

Anthony
 
Hyper Paint Correction System (HPCS)
Optimum Polymer Technologies Hyper Paint Correction System (HPCS) is a simple system designed to give superior results in less time while using less product. It’s a complete system designed to be simple to use and efficient without creating dust, or the need to tape off plastic mouldings.
Consisting of 2 machines, 1 Compound, 2 polishes and 4 pads the Hyper Paint Correction System (HPCS) gives you everything you need for correction and shine in one or 2 steps.
The machines designed to work with the Hyper Paint Correction System (HPCS)

  • The Zentool 21E is a 900W random orbital polisher with a 21mm offset stroke. Unique in the industry with an easy to grip surface, the Zentool 21E is simple to use and will get swirl free professional results with very minimal effort and time. Important to the Hyper Paint Correction System (HPCS) the Zentool 21E was designed with a backing plate to promote in pad cooling reducing heat because of the airflow possible only through Optimum Waffle pads. Able to use both 5 and 6 inch pads the Zentool 21E is a formidable correction tool.
  • The Zentool mini is a 3 inch random orbital polisher that allows you to get into tighter areas. With it’s 12mm offset stroke it combines both polishing and correction abilities in a easy to handle and manoeuver package.
The pads of the Hyper Paint Correction System (HPCS) listed in order of cut from fast cutting to fine polishing.

  • Hyper Foam/ wool pad. Exclusive to Optimum this pad combines a short nap foamed wool face, with a soft foam interface to follow surface contours. This pad combined with Hyper Compound will quickly correct 1500G sanding marks, and provide a surface that just requires a final polishing prior to coating or wax application.
  • Optimums Waffle pads have some specific design elements that allow them to work efficiently as an integral part of the Hyper Paint Correction System (HPCS). A unique Velcro backing allows air to flow through it for optimal pad cooling. The waffle surface allows for air to circulate between the pad and paint. The waffle surface also eliminates pressure points and excessive drag caused by flat pads, allowing for more efficient pad rotation.
  • The Orange waffle pad combines cut with good polishing abilities. The orange pad can be used with Hyper Compound for light to moderate defect removal, with Hyper Intensive Polish for a one step polish that has good correction and high gloss. When minimal correction is required Hyper polish will finish down LSP ready while providing correction.
  • The Black Waffle pad is for use with your choice of Hyper Intensive Polish or Hyper Polish. Used as the final step following correction with Hyper compound it will quickly refine the surface left by Hyper Compound. Using the Black Waffle pad will give high gloss and provide minimal correction.
  • The Blue Waffle pad is to be used with Hyper Polish as a refinement step when dealing with difficult to correct paints.
The Hyper Paint Correction System is based around the synergy of the Hyper trio and the complete Optimum line. The Hyper trio are characterised by their ease of use, efficiency and how user friendly they are. Non staining, no taping of mouldings is required, non-dusting when used according to instructions, and using inter compatible nano abrasives the trio save time and effort. No need to wipe off the residue between steps as the synergy of the HPCS allows you to refine the surface without risking towel marring and wasting time removing the minimal residue.

  • Hyper Compound is a cutting compound that easily removes 1500G sanding marks, while providing an easy to refine surface. Used with either the Hyper Wool/foam pad or the Orange waffle pad Hyper Compound provides both cut and gloss, without dust or hazing. For very heavy correction the Optimum Double Sided Wool pad can be used effectively with Hyper Compound.
  • Hyper Intensive Polish is a cutting polish, providing a gloss finish and moderate cutting abilities its primary use is as a one-step polish. Used with the Orange or Black waffle pad, cut and finish can be adjusted.
  • Hyper Polish is used in conjunction with the waffle pads to refine the surface after compound, or to provide exceptional gloss on paints that do not require correction.
The synergy of the complete Optimum line is highlighted with the HPCS, and the time saving realized by using this synergy are evident. For a full correction detail utilizing the Optimum line, and how it saves you time follow these simple steps.

  • Wash the vehicle with Optimum No Rinse(ONR).
  • Decontaminate the paint using an Optimum Clay Towel and the ONR on the surface from the wash as lubrication.
  • Determine the level of correction required and start with your first correction step over the ONR dampened surface, no need to dry or tape off the vehicle.
  • Dampen your chosen pad with ONR wash solution (preferably in a pad washer) and simply spray 1 shot of Hyper Compound on the pad, no need to prime the pad, nor use a large amount of product.
  • Not over using the product is a very important aspect and requires some adaptation for most experienced polishers. It’s imperative that you use a damp pad, and that no more than 1 spray of Hyper Compound of polish be used per section. With the Hyper Paint Correction System do not prime your pads, an clean and dampen your pads after every section.
  • Using the Zentool move it slowly over the surface with a tool speed only as high as needed to allow the backing plate to turn (2-3 on the speed dial). Excessive speed is counterproductive as it creates heat. Pressure should be avoided, just the weight of the tool is sufficient. Again this is different than with most polishing products, just like more product does not mean more results, the same goes with speed and pressure, more will potentially reduce cut and finish. Allow the Hyper Paint Correction System to do the work, not you.
  • The pad should be cleaned of excessive product and paint residue after every section and kept clean and damp with an ONR filled pad cleaner.
  • Once the correction step is complete on the whole vehicle, proceed to the polishing step, there is no need to wipe off the minimal Hyper Compound residue.
  • Doing a test spot will determine if you require Hyper Intensive Polish or Hyper Polish to refine the surface to make it ready for Opti-Seal, Optimum Gloss Coat or Opti-Coat Pro(For Opti-Coat Pro the included Primer Polish should be used instead of Hyper Polish).
  • The Polishing step should require minimal time and passes, as any correction should be done in the first step.
  • Using the pad/polish combination of your choice refine the surface while keeping your pad clean and damp. As with Hyper Compound only one spray of product on the pad is needed.
  • If your paint is very difficult to finish, using a clean blue waffle pad dampened in ONR without any polish will aid in removing the polish residue, working in small sections at low speed
To prepare the surface for application of an Optimum coating, remove the polish residue using a Micro-Fibre Towel dampened with ONR to soften and remove the polish residue safely , then apply a mist of Optimum Paint Prep on the panel and dry off both the ONR and Paint Prep.. The ONR will easily remove the polish residue and the Optimum Paint Prep will leave the surface ready for the coating. The Paint Prep Solution has many advantages over IPA when preparing for a coating. It has higher lubricity, allowing the coating to flow out and self-level better , reducing high spots. Optimum Paint Prep also removes all traces of wax and polishing oils leaving the surface as pure as possible for the Opti-Seal, Gloss-Coat or Opti-Coat Pro to bond.
 
Why couldn't these guys design a system around Flex and LC Hybrids or pads that fit the flex and LC interchangable backing plate. I like the aspect of systems but it would be great if someone could adapt this to Flex and LC Hybrids.
 
It would be nice if all we needed was 1 set of pads for all brands of polish. Optimum chose waffle pads for various reasons.

First is heat, a waffle pad keeps the surface cooler as it circulates air between the pad and the paint. Coupled to the unique velcro of Optimum's waffle pads that is permeable, allowing the cross ventilated backing plate of the Zentool 21E to draw heat out of the pad.

Next on the list of pluses for the waffle pad is it's ability to better follow contours then a flat pad. Allowing the face to mold itself to the surface of the car (very few cars have flat panels) reduces areas of excessive pressure and heat generated by flat pads. This constant contact also gives more efficient polishing due to the increased contact area over that of a flat pad.

Since pad priming is a big NO-NO with the Hyper Paint Correction System, the waffle pad distributes the polish more effectively and allows for a place for paint residue to accumulate safely away from the paint.

Again unlike other polishing systems the HPCS is not at it,s best when the pad is under pressure, further exploiting the benefits of the waffle pad.

Optimum's waffle pads do fit the flex.
 
Hyper Polish is my go to polish hands down! Here is a section polished with Hyper Polish, Merguairs Microfiber polishing disc, and Harbor Freight D/A.

Heavily oxidized 2001 Honda Civic.

 
Just heard back from Optimum...

The new Hyper Compound will be moved into #10/10 on the aggression scale and Hyper Polisher will be moved to #6/10.

The Polish Comparison Chart will be updated by the end of today.

The current "Hyper compound" being sold at Autopia, is that the 2015 upgraded version? Would you guys be stocking the "optimum intensive polish" ? Their new "hyper wool foam pad" ?
 
Yvan--if using pads other than Optimum Waffle pads do you still recommend they be dampened with an ONR solution?
 
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