no name professional detailers

mirrorfinishman said:
Where is the credibility in remaining nameless?
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Where is the point of this thread? You can't, as a professional, separate out good advice from bad advice on this forum? Does using a real name separate someone from being able to give bad advice? I'm sorry, looking for complete transparency on an internet forum is being a bit unrealistic. If you've had a bad experience due to someone without a name, let's hear about it. OTOH, as Accumulator alluded to, there are plenty of completely credible people here who don't use their real name, professional or not (such as Accumulator ;) ).
 
Where is the credibility of giving your name? How do we know it is your real name?



I don't get this. Your name is Frank Canna, but that doesn't mean you know the first thing about detailing. Your credibility comes from your business website that we can see by going to your homepage, from your many posts that are good by themselves, and corroborated by the advice from others as well, not your name.



My name is Dave Weiss, does that make any difference? Am I now more credible?
 
mirrorfinishman said:
Maybe a few of you professional detailers could please take a moment to explain something to the rest of us. Why do some members who post in the Professional Detailers Forum choose not reveal their name? Anyone have any thoughts?
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Please tell me you're not posting this because azenthusiast (aka Shawn) didn't give you his real name until you made some smart comment about him not providing it from the get-go... If so, that is pathetic.



http://autopia.org/forum/professional-detailers/102554-pros-how-did-you-start-out.html



After looking through that thread again, it looks like you've deleted your post. How convenient! :think:
 
I think it's also becasue anything you put out for consumption on the internet is viewable by so many people. Especially by people you wouldn't want to have your information.

It's a much different venue than talking in public.



I don't think it's a matter of credibility. You have to take it at face value and make your determination from there.
 
mcc said:
Where is the credibility of giving your name? How do we know it is your real name?



I don't get this. Your name is Frank Canna, but that doesn't mean you know the first thing about detailing. Your credibility comes from your business website that we can see by going to your homepage, from your many posts that are good by themselves, and corroborated by the advice from others as well, not your name.



My name is Dave Weiss, does that make any difference? Am I now more credible?
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I think the fact that Frank has been in business for over 20 years and has articles featured in industry magazines backs up his credentials. The point is, this is a professional forum, and part of being professional is volunteering who you are. Of course there are people on this forum that choose not to volunteer their real name, but I still respect highly. I believe most of these people do not have a detailing business. If you do indeed run a detail business, who is going to want to do business with you if they do not know your name.
 
brwill2005 said:
I think the fact that Frank has been in business for over 20 years and has articles featured in industry magazines backs up his credentials. The point is, this is a professional forum, and part of being professional is volunteering who you are. Of course there are people on this forum that choose not to volunteer their real name, but I still respect highly. I believe most of these people do not have a detailing business. If you do indeed run a detail business, who is going to want to do business with you if they do not know your name.
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I thought this was the forum for pro detailers to share ideas and discuss the business. I didn't think we were on here trying to get customers. My customers know my name, my business name, and my reputation. On a message board, a name doesn't mean a whole lot, as anyone can claim to be anyone they want. Your name means nothing to me, but your quality posts on this board show that you know what you're talking about and garners respect.



I don't read someone's post and then focus on whether or not they have divulged their personal name to determine whether or not one is professional or knowledgeable. That is shown by their post, not their name.



If this thread is about divulging your name to your customers, then I agree that it would certainly be professional to do so. If this is about putting your name out here on message boards for a bunch of strangers that you may never meet, a board that is about discussion of issues, then I don't agree that it matters one bit what your name is or mine. Maybe I'm in the minority, but I focus on what you say and how it is received by others in the business, not what your personal name is.



It is also professional to give your phone number, maybe some references, to your customers. Should we start posting that here too?
 
I am glad you respect the quality of my posts. The fact is, Autopia has been a valuable marketing tool to me and to others. I can definitely see Franks side, which is shared by me to some extent, and I can also see your side.
 
Setec Astronomy said:
Where is the point of this thread? You can't, as a professional, separate out good advice from bad advice on this forum? Does using a real name separate someone from being able to give bad advice? I'm sorry, looking for complete transparency on an internet forum is being a bit unrealistic. If you've had a bad experience due to someone without a name, let's hear about it. OTOH, as Accumulator alluded to, there are plenty of completely credible people here who don't use their real name, professional or not (such as Accumulator ;) ).
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I fall into the "weekend warrior" segment of detailing.



Every once in a while you get someone who posts here looking for a "pro detailer" to detail their cars...



I liken a lot of them to the "price shoppers" that freak out at what it will cost when "the can get it done for $$ at the local "swirl-o-matic" car wash and detail center. :cry: :cooleek: :eek:



Professionalism isn't your real name on a website... it's an attitude.



On this forum, I go by DaGonz. It's a variation of a nickname that I got when I got on the Fire Department back in 1981. My prior screenname was my nickname and original employee number.
 
mirrorfinishman said:
Okay, a guy walks in a bar, sits down and strikes up a conversation with another guy about starting a detailing business....
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Heh heh, ah, bars...where stupid people get in stupid situations by doing stupid things with other stupid people. Hey, that sounds like a more immediately serious version of an internet forum!



Actually, I like the bar analogy, and I'll put a finer point on it: Autopia is like a *cop* bar. If a civilian wannabe goes into a cop bar and acts like he's a LEO, it won't take very long for the *real* LEOs to figure out that he's a poseur. And if you *can't* tell the real from the bogus, you'd better be especially careful lest you be deceived.
 
Accumulator said:
Actually, I like the bar analogy, and I'll put a finer point on it: Autopia is like a *cop* bar. If a civilian wannabe goes into a cop bar and acts like he's a LEO, it won't take very long for the *real* LEOs to figure out that he's a poseur. And if you *can't* tell the real from the bogus, you'd better be especially careful lest you be deceived.
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Couldn't have said it better myself. Even if one gives a name, are they telling the truth?? They'll find out your name when they contact you and they usually contact you because they see your *WORK*.
 
Accumulator said:
Heh heh, ah, bars...where stupid people get in stupid situations by doing stupid things with other stupid people. Hey, that sounds like a more immediately serious version of an internet forum!



Actually, I like the bar analogy, and I'll put a finer point on it: Autopia is like a *cop* bar. If a civilian wannabe goes into a cop bar and acts like he's a LEO, it won't take very long for the *real* LEOs to figure out that he's a poseur. And if you *can't* tell the real from the bogus, you'd better be especially careful lest you be deceived.
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Excellent analogy.
 
Should be obvious my first name is Scott. I keep my last name off internet forums (can't be too careful about identity theft) but anyone who gets an e-mail from me would know my last name as well.
 
mirrorfinishman said:
Why would a no name professional detailer go nameless on this forum and at the same time expect others to take what they are saying seriously. Where is the credibility in remaining nameless?
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We all know your name Frank, but you also don't use clay or any buffers (at least last I've heard) and very rarely offer 'real' detailing advice. Mostly you give really good business operation advice and it is appreciated. I know what kind of a businessman you are but I really have no idea what kind of a detailer you actually are.
 
Scottwax said:
We all know your name Frank, but you also don't use clay or any buffers (at least last I've heard) and very rarely offer 'real' detailing advice. Mostly you give really good business operation advice and it is appreciated. I know what kind of a businessman you are but I really have no idea what kind of a detailer you actually are.
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Excellent post!:dance
 
moderator tortoiseawd,



Have you noticed the direction of the replies since your post? Maybe you can be serious long enough to either post your view on the subject or kindly remove your comedy?
 
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