Newbie Needs Advice on Detailing New Car

globe9

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Hi Everyone,

This is my first post on these forums. I've read through many of the threads looking for answers to my questions, but I've not yet seen anything that answers my specific questions and also it seems that everyone uses letters as abbreviations for products and since I don't know what the products are, I have no idea what the letters mean :)

I just bought a new 2010 Nissan Rogue in black. This is not my first black car. My high school graduation present was a new black Mazda Protege and when I finally got rid of it 11 years later, people couldn't believe how good it looked for it's age. You could still see your reflection in the paint. The regime I used on that car(back in the early 90's) was to wash it, usually once a week, with some kind of car wash soap(not dish soap), and then I waxed every other month with Blue Coral's Autofom....I know, not the best stuff, but I liked the way it worked. Made the car slick and shiny. I'm sure there were swirls in the paint, but I didn't really notice or know that those could be avoided.

As for my Rogue. I'll probably wash once a week if it's dirty. If it looks fine, I won't bother washing. I'd like the paint to continue to look shiny and I'll try to avoid swirl marks if it all possible. I'm obviously not as anal as some of you guys on here, so please keep that in mind. I don't want to spend more than an hour a week on this car unless it is really dirty. Also please keep in mind that I don't want to spend a fortune on it either...I can lay out $30 or $40 in supplies and products, but they should last for a while. I'm not spending that every week.

So, here's what I need to know. What brand and type car wash soap should I buy and use? What brand or type of mitt should I use? This car really is brand new and has not been washed yet(by me anyway) so I'm going to try to avoid swirls in the paint as much as I can, I've read that washing can cause these swirls, so I'd like to use a technique and product that will keep them to a minimum. Please give suggestions and use the real names of the products, not initals LOL Oh and give me products that are readily available at Wal-Mart, O'Reilly, Autozone, Pepboys, Advance, Napa, etc. I don't even know where a specialty car wash product place is around here(New Orleans). Oh and when washing, should I go back and forth with sponge/rag/etc in a line or use a circular motion or what?

Once washed, what should I use to dry the car? Right now I use a synthetic shammy called The Absorber, that absorbs a lot of water off of the car. Is this ok to use on the new car? If not, what should I be using?

As for wheels, I've always just used same sponge I used on the car with the soap to clean. Since I usually wash once a week or at least once every 2 weeks, the brake dust isn't too bad and this cleans well, but I'm not opposed to using a product. The wheels are alloy.

Once washed and dryed, what is a good, easy to apply, wax or polish that I can apply and doesn't require too much elbow grease? I actually like washing my car, but I dread the waxing part. It seems like so much more work. Remember, this is just for me, I'm not showing the car at a show or anything. I want the best appearance for the least amount of work...does this make sense LOL I don't have any electric tools for this(buffer, etc) and don't plan on buying any. So please give me advice on product I can do myself. Note: Car is all black, so something that won't turn the plastic trim white if it all possible. Also, live in New Orleans so it gets HOT in the summers. We don't have a garage or shady trees, so is there something that can be applied in direct sunlight and in the heat?

Thanks everyone for any help, tips, advice. I basically want my new car to look great and stay that way, but I don't necessarily need a flawless car as I'm not willing to put that much work into it. I want better than the avg person who will drive there car through the gas station car wash and think that's good, but not as good as the person who spends over $100 on products and dreams of showing their cars in competitions.
 
First off, try putting breaks in your paragraphs. A wall of text is hard to read and turns people off.



That aside, black cars are generally harder to care for, as your Mazda Protege would have shown you. If, you're really trying to avoid marring, with minimal polishing, take EVERY PRECAUTION POSSIBLE.



Optimum Polymer Technologies, makers of Optimum No Rinse Wash and Shine, Optimum Car Wax, Opti-Seal, etc. make great products for what you're looking for. They're not available at local box stores, but can easily be ordered online for less than the stuff you find in chain stores.



Synthetic shammys are fine for drying, but you probably want to hop onto the microfiber bandwagon. Much better for all purpose use and are preferred among most everyone.
 
I would suggest reading as much as you can first to get a feel for what types of products/tools/techniques are out there and what might work best for you. Ask a dozen people around here what products/tools/techniques they recommend and you are likely to get a dozen different answers.



Over the years I have saved links to articles, videos and threads for my own reference. Below are just a handful from that collection I thought may help get you started:



Articles by Mike Phillips by Mike Phillips

Autopia Guide to Detailing by David Bynon

Auto Detailing Facts, Tips & Tricks by Autogeek

Detailing Flow Chart by Autogeek

VIDEO:Videos on Meguiar's.com and the MeguiarsAsia YouTube Channel by Meguiars

VIDEO:Adam's Polishes FREE Detailing "How To" Videos by Dylan @ Adams



I like to gather ideas from a variety of sources and then build a routine that fits my own needs. While I may not agree with the content of every article/video/discussion I read, I do occasionally discover a valuable nugget of insight that I can adopt into my own regimen.
 
Thanks for the quick reply and tip about posting long paragraphs :)



I'll look into the product you mentioned. Are there any over the counter products that can be used that will make look my car look good and protect the paint? Meguiar's, Mothers maybe? This will be a weekend driver for the most part as I have a company car that I will use during the week. Will use my car to drive to and from work(7 miles roundtrip) a day.



Not looking for show car quality. Just shiny paint that is protected and will still look good in 7 years.



Also, this car is brand new. Bought it on Saturday. Is it necessary to polish, wax right now or should I wait? Which one should I do, polish? wax? or both?



Thanks again for all the advice.
 
Ahhh... Much easier :D



Meguair's and Mother's make great products in general, I wouldn't expect anything less from their OTC products. As Kean mentioned, read around first. Then choose the products you feel like using.



If your paint looks fine and the dealer didn't leave anything significant that bugs you, just go ahead with the protection stage.



I prefer a sealant + wax combination for the looks and added durability. Either one will do fine on its own though.



P.S. Autoglym has launched their line into an OTC product, check them out. There's already a good amount of information floating around.
 
Doesn't directly answer your question, but this is something Accumulator said in another thread that really explains the washing process. Just figure it may help a little, I know it made things make a lot of sense to me:



IMO washing is the number #1 factor in detailing. It's what you most often and it's when the majority of marring usually occurs. And it's *NOT* something simple and obvious.



You have to move abrasive dirt across/off delicate paint without applying so much pressure to the dirt that it causes marring.



Get the wash right, and polishing isn't a big deal because you won't have to do it very often.
 
damn dood, you talk like this girl i used to know (he's biologically a male though).



if you're lazy go to target/kragen's and get some microfiber or wool wash mitts. get 2-3 microfiber applicators, waffle weave drying towels, and some soft polishing/buffing towels. or get better ones at autogeek.



go to the article section here and read up on how to wash a car.



go to zaino's website and get the total protection kit. instructions on their site. easy to put on & off, lasts 6-10 months, and doesn't hurt trim - you can polish your trim if you want.



you don't need to polish unless it's swirled up - most ppl probably polish every 1-4 years i guess.
 
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