Help using Menzerna 3800 - Super Finish Polish (po85rd)

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I`m going to be using this polish on my car to get that extra "pop" for show car season. My car currently has VERY minor wash marring. I`m thinking I`ll give it a quick once over w HD polish and a white LC polishing pad (which has worked great in the past) then move on to the Menzerna 3800 -basically for "jeweling" the paint for that extra gloss.

I`ve never used this or any Menzerna product before.

How does it differ from say HD polish or Megs 205? Any tips for use?

What pad should I use if I`m using it for that final "show car" finish? Out of the pads that I do have I`m thinking LC black or LC Tangerine Ultra Polishing Foam. Which do you guys think would make more sense for simply "jeweling" the paint? I`m not opposed to buying another pad (say the LC Crimson Finishing Foam pad) if that makes more sense. I do prefer the flat (not CCS/dimpled) pads.

I`ll be using my Griots DA.

Thanks!!
 
I used this on a Harley blue paint a while back and a rupes yellow pad and it worked great- I will try to find the pic in a little bit of the 50/50 cut which was pretty impressive considering the finish
 
I`ld say since you have the black pad use that and use ligh light pressure almost none and say 4-5 on speed and only a few passes no more than 4


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Super Finish is 3500, 106FA. Super Finish Plus is 3800, PO85RD. Had to look at my bottles to tell the difference:o

I use a Buff and Shine Green pad to Jewel. Its a flat pad like the LC.

The Black LC pad is Meh for me, can`t tell the difference after I use it. I have a Red and Black LC pad, they just sit in my box.

The Tangerine LC pad is too much of a polish pad to use as a jeweling pad.

Otherwise I`d say follow Civicclutch`s lead.
 
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I used the Wolfgang Finishing glaze with a LC black pad on a rotary to jewel my car. Came out beautiful. Similar product to 3800, but I think it has less abrasive in it and more oils.
 
I just finished my brothers truck this weekend and did the final polish with the red Hydro-Tech and is my favorite for that polish. It was compounded with the blue (cyan) and 400 first.

There were couple spots that I had to go with 300 and MF but those were isolated and small. Other than the Hydros my next choice is the LC HD`s . But for a finish with 3800 my pad of choice is the Hydro red (crimson).

Here is a picture of the polish and corresponding pads I use with the 400 using either foam cut of MF. and a couple of how the truck turned out.

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Super Finish Plus 3800, a slightly revamped version of Super Finish 4500, but yet both a.k.a. PO85RD, has a long working time and is low dusting. It behaves more like Ultimate Polish than 205. Keep CarPro Eraser or your IPA solution on hand because it`s a bit oily, but not as much as 4500 was. I am always glad I take the extra step and use 3800. It takes things to "11". I`ve used LC Red Hydrotech pads, and LC green pads with 3800 with great results. I agree that the black pad is "meh". The black pad is a wax applicator IMO.
 
Mike Phillips uses a blue pad for that application. At least he did in a rotary jewelling video.

Because I`m not a fan of super oily polishes, I`m more inclined to short cycle M205, or UP.

I would use a blue Buff and Shine, or green ccs, which is my normal polishing pad. I like the idea of the Crimson Hydrotech too.
 
jrock645 said:
I used the Wolfgang Finishing glaze with a LC black pad on a rotary to jewel my car. Came out beautiful. Similar product to 3800, but I think it has less abrasive in it and more oils.
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I believe the WG Finishing Glaze is closer to Menz SF-3500, no?
 
Marine Clerk said:
Super Finish is 3500, 106FA. Super Finish Plus is 3800, PO85RD. Had to look at my bottles to tell the difference:o

I use a Buff and Shine Green pad to Jewel. Its a flat pad like the LC.

The Black LC pad is Meh for me, can`t tell the difference after I use it. I have a Red and Black LC pad, they just sit in my box.

The Tangerine LC pad is too much of a polish pad to use as a jeweling pad.

Otherwise I`d say follow Civicclutch`s lead.
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To be honest, I have never liked the black LC pads. I just feel they soak up way to much product.

The Guz said:
I used it with a Meguiar`s black finishing pad on this http://www.autopia.org/forums/click...3-2010-camaro-optimum-gloss-coat-formula.html and on this http://www.autopia.org/forums/click...se/183050-2003-pontiac-grand-prix-coated.html

It worked fairly well to add some nice gloss.
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Awesome work. That Grand Prix is the same color as my Trans Am.

Ancient_1 said:
I just finished my brothers truck this weekend and did the final polish with the red Hydro-Tech and is my favorite for that polish. It was compounded with the blue (cyan) and 400 first.

There were couple spots that I had to go with 300 and MF but those were isolated and small. Other than the Hydros my next choice is the LC HD`s . But for a finish with 3800 my pad of choice is the Hydro red (crimson).

Here is a picture of the polish and corresponding pads I use with the 400 using either foam cut of MF. and a couple of how the truck turned out.

2017-02-21%2017.29.53.jpg

2017-02-21%2012.12.33.jpg
2017-02-21%2011.56.58.jpg
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Just grabbed three of the LC Crimson pads. Thanks!

WaxAddict said:
Super Finish Plus 3800, a slightly revamped version of Super Finish 4500, but yet both a.k.a. PO85RD, has a long working time and is low dusting. It behaves more like Ultimate Polish than 205. Keep CarPro Eraser or your IPA solution on hand because it`s a bit oily, but not as much as 4500 was. I am always glad I take the extra step and use 3800. It takes things to "11". I`ve used LC Red Hydrotech pads, and LC green pads with 3800 with great results. I agree that the black pad is "meh". The black pad is a wax applicator IMO.
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Thanks. I do have Eraser in my cabinet. And yes - I`m hoping to "go to 11"!!
 
WaxAddict said:
Super Finish Plus 3800, a slightly revamped version of Super Finish 4500, but yet both a.k.a. PO85RD, has a long working time and is low dusting. It behaves more like Ultimate Polish than 205. Keep CarPro Eraser or your IPA solution on hand because it`s a bit oily, but not as much as 4500 was. I am always glad I take the extra step and use 3800. It takes things to "11". I`ve used LC Red Hydrotech pads, and LC green pads with 3800 with great results. I agree that the black pad is "meh". The black pad is a wax applicator IMO.
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I like Wax Addicts and Ancient_1s experience with the Crimson Hydrotech and am picking one up. The Lake Country Kompressor Red is my non used pad.
 
Marine Clerk said:
I like Wax Addicts and Ancient_1s experience with the Crimson Hydrotech and am picking one up. The Lake Country Kompressor Red is my non used pad.
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I grabbed three this morning. I`m thinking that should be enough for the entire car since they really won`t be getting gummed up to any degree or removing gobs of clear coat.
 
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