Gloss It review done by Polished Bliss!

d00t said:
Randy, what days were you at SEMA?
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I got in late Tuesday afternoon (no thanks to sitting on the tarmac for 1.5 hours in Phoenix :down )and flew out on Saturday AM. We were able to take a quick run through on Tuesday and then spent all of Wed and Friday at SEMA. Thursday we took a quick stroll through APEX in the afternoon after spending the morning at SEMA.



My feet were killing me, but it's worth it to see it in person.



Randy
 
Well............... I am new here but not new to the biz. At the end of the day everyone has bias to one product line or the other,that being said Rich has been lambasted in many threads and some of it he has deserved(for being really aggressive)some of it is people drinking hatorade.



I was "one of the detailers" contacted by Rich@Gloss-it,and at first I was VERY leery of his motives and claims also I felt there was some over confidence in his product line.So he sent out some product with an invoice that read no charge if I liked the stuff then I could pay the invoice,well I put the line to the test in various conditions and could tell the line was very good.



Like Todd I was really impressed with the QD as it finishes down very well and can be used in hot conditions(at the time high nineties in the SF Bay area)now after being with Rich all week at SEMA and also working at his shop on test panels I REALLY know how the line works,as to the posts by Dave(who is an outstanding detailer btw)and also for being only sixteen years old he has maturity way beyond his years much like Aaron who works with me now,these two guys would put alot of "experienced" guys to shame worked with the product all week at SEMA over and over on two panels that were there for demonstation purposes. Many body shop and top detail shops like Northwest Auto Salon saw for themselves how well the line works to correct any and all problems all of us encounter.



All I would ask is if you do not like the line after you use it properly then so be it,but until then any negative comments are just snipping for no good reason,as for Brian in Georgia Todd told Rich to call you as he was told you are one of the top detailers in the country and have the abilty to tell what works and what does not and it is only natural to get the most respected guys on board to use the line.



I use the stuff because it works,and if it works my customers are happy and I keep my business at a high level.I also use stuff from CG,P&S,and others as a matter of fact I will use CG e-zyme on a black E-92 M3 this Sunday and will give my opinion as to the performance of the wax however I would never attack Paul even if I did not care for the product.That being said as a newbie I hope I am not flamed.
 
Auto Concierge said:
Well............... I am new here but not new to the biz. At the end of the day everyone has bias to one product line or the other,that being said Rich has been lambasted in many threads and some of it he has deserved(for being really aggressive)some of it is people drinking hatorade.



I was "one of the detailers" contacted by Rich@Gloss-it,and at first I was VERY leery of his motives and claims also I felt there was some over confidence in his product line.So he sent out some product with an invoice that read no charge if I liked the stuff then I could pay the invoice,well I put the line to the test in various conditions and could tell the line was very good.



Like Todd I was really impressed with the QD as it finishes down very well and can be used in hot conditions(at the time high nineties in the SF Bay area)now after being with Rich all week at SEMA and also working at his shop on test panels I REALLY know how the line works,as to the posts by Dave(who is an outstanding detailer btw)and also for being only sixteen years old he has maturity way beyond his years much like Aaron who works with me now,these two guys would put alot of "experienced" guys to shame worked with the product all week at SEMA over and over on two panels that were there for demonstation purposes. Many body shop and top detail shops like Northwest Auto Salon saw for themselves how well the line works to correct any and all problems all of us encounter.



All I would ask is if you do not like the line after you use it properly then so be it,but until then any negative comments are just snipping for no good reason,as for Brian in Georgia Todd told Rich to call you as he was told you are one of the top detailers in the country and have the abilty to tell what works and what does not and it is only natural to get the most respected guys on board to use the line.I use the stuff because it works,and if it works my customers are happy and I keep my business at a high level.I also use stuff from CG,P&S,and others as a matter of fact I will use CG e-zyme on a black E-92 M3 this Sunday and will give my opinion as to the performance of the wax however I would never attack Paul even if I did not care for the product.That being said as a newbie I hope I am not flamed.
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Hi Bob, that part you said is 100% not true...



I told Rich to contact Ryan Blanchette (rydawg) I NEVER told Rich to contact Brian (gmblack3A). In fact Rich told me that he got his number from Peach State Detailing (a forum that Brian runs).



I also told Rich to contact Eric Dunn from Lake Country because Eric had happened to share with me some new pad foams designed to work with water based polishes (such as Gloss Its).



This is the truth.
 
Auto Concierge said:
All I would ask is if you do not like the line after you use it properly then so be it,but until then any negative comments are just snipping for no good reason,as for Brian in Georgia Todd told Rich to call you as he was told you are one of the top detailers in the country and have the abilty to tell what works and what does not and it is only natural to get the most respected guys on board to use the line.
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As I stated in the past, the head of the company called me, told me that two very well known and respected detailers told him to call me. I called both detailers right away, they both told me that they never told him to call me.



My phone # is listed on this site in the classified section, a simple google search will also lead anyone to my phone #.



When someone calls me and makes false claims about who uses their products, why would I ever want to do business with them? Sorry but I am not that gullible.
 
Todd,



You sure you do not want to amend the part about who you told Rich to call? remember I just spent a week in Vegas with Rich and have seen all your texts and e-mails back and forth,also Aaron and I were at dinner with Rich,Dave and Brian from Detailwerks when Rydawg called Rich to talk about this very subject and your conversations with Clark @ Polishedbliss.



If you do not come clean about this I will still admire your detailing skill but your integrity......
 
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Todd,



You sure you do not want to amend the part about who you told Rich to call? remember I just spent a week in Vegas with Rich and have seen all your texts and e-mails back and forth,also Aaron and I were at dinner with Rich,Dave and Brian from Detailwerks when Rydawg called Rich to talk about this very subject and your conversations with Clark @ Polishedbliss.



If you do not come clean about this I will still admire your detailing skill but your integrity......
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I perosonally like Rich so I am going to ask you to remove this thread before I feel the need to defend myself.



I am sure that I did not tell Rich to call Bryan to test out his products but MAY have mentioned his name. I also know that Rich told me how he found Bryan's number on Peach State Detailing (which is what he also told Ryan B.)



I don't want to play games, I have kept out of this and stayed objective. I can and will add way more to the story if I have too.



Keep this in mind Bob, sharing PM's (if they are even accurate) shows a lack of integrty, telling the truth doesn't...
 
gmblack3a said:
As I stated in the past, the head of the company called me, told me that two very well known and respected detailers told him to call me. I called both detailers right away, they both told me that they never told him to call me.



My phone # is listed on this site in the classified section, a simple google search will also lead anyone to my phone #.



When someone calls me and makes false claims about who uses their products, why would I ever want to do business with them? Sorry but I am not that gullible.
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Bryan, did Rich name the 2 detailers who told him to call you? Because I did mention your name and company info to Rich on 2 ocasions. Im not covering for anybody but I should tell you that I have, on 2 ocasions (about 1 to 2 months ago) given your name and number to Rich, FYI. And when Rich also asked me about respected detailers outside of the US I told him about Clark.
 
Picus said:
So I've finally time traveled back to highschool. Awesome.
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I always enjoy when a 3rd party chimes in on threads such as this one to make a comment such as that. Its resolves nothing and in turn probably just fuels the fire. Yes, we get it.... Arguing (although we are not actually arguing) on the internet is stupid and usually leads nowhere but in all honesty I feel as I think others do as well that some things needed to be cleared up...and still need to be cleared up in regard to a certian product line and its owner. This thread has not gotten out of hand and if you think this thread is "highschool" you should really look at what people are saying first and then look at your own statement, because so far thats the only "highschool" thing I see here.



Now back to For example to show how this thread is somewhat contructive... ZimRandy stated his feelings towards me promoting the products and I, in a polite way responded with my feelings about how if I was using any other industry standard product that I would not be considered as promoting them. And I now underststand his point about being defensive about FOTM and new detailing products in general. So out of this thread I got my point across to at least one person and in return understood where he was coming from. I hope others here will see things this way as well.
 
dsms said:
I always enjoy when a 3rd party chimes in on threads such as this one to make a comment such as that. Yes, we get it.... Arguing (although we are not actually arguing) on the internet is stupid and usually leads nowhere but in all honesty I feel as I think others do as well that some things needed to be cleared up...and still need to be cleared up in regard to a certian product line and its owner.



For example ZimRandy stated his feelings towards me promoting the products and I, in a polite way responded with my feelings towards his idea that I was promoting the product line. He clearly seemed to understand my point about how if I was using any other industry standard product that I would not be considered as promoting them. And I now underststand his point about being defensive about FOTM and new detailing products in general. So out of this thread I got my point across to at least one person and in return understood where he was coming from. I hope others here will see things this way as well.
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You seemed excited about gloss it, in every thread you did. Didn't see anything wrong with it.



However, has anyone tested it with the pc yet?



I was told that it was designed for DA machines. :birthday::birthday::birthday::birthday::birthday::secret:secret:secret
 
if someone is getting good results from a product and likes to share, then why not... the only way for someone to find out if they like any product is for he or she to try it out for themselves... i wish more companies would sell small samples (like optimum) so if they didn't like it, then it wouldn't be a big loss...
 
tdekany said:
You seemed excited about gloss it, in every thread you did. Didn't see anything wrong with it.



However, has anyone tested it with the pc yet?



I was told that it was designed for DA machines. :birthday::birthday::birthday::birthday::birthday::secret:secret:secret
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I appreciate your simple observation about an enthusiastic detailer spreading the word on a product he thinks is good. The polishes do happen to work very well with the PC, mainly because they're water based it allows less powerful DA machines to work them for a long time but on the rotary there is a steep learning curve.



Thanks about the birthday wishes..funny how today was one of those days where everything that could have gone wrong did go wrong, I got probably the biggest raw deal there was and still cant get over it. Anyway thanks for your happy bday wishes.
 
dsms said:
I got probably the biggest raw deal there was
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Remember that things can always be much worse.



I am sure millions would be happy to change places with you.:spot:spot:heelclick:heelclick:xyxthumbs:bigups:xyxthumbs:bigups
 
I'd really like to try some of the Gloss-It products, but because of the way it's being marketed (overly hyped on forums), I'm totally turned off by it all together (wether it's good or not). The same thing happeded with Zaino when all the Zealots constantly argued about how great their products were. (I've recently noticed Zaino people calming down dramatically and have since started using and like it alot.) When there's this much controversy over a product line, many can't help to fall on the side of pessimism rather than taking on the challenge of trying it with a free mind. David – I use to really like studing your Click N Brags, but ever since you’ve totally switched to Gloss-It, I can’t help to not to find it becoming really spammy. I also can’t help not to notice that on practically every detail related forum, you’re on there pumping up Gloss-It products exclusively. Don’t you think it’s a bit much to focus this much energy on 1 product line without having people think you could have ulterior motifs? Can you blame them? Why else would somebody take on this level of a crusade to get this product name out unless they’re benefiting in one way or another. Makes me refer back to what the owner of Autopia DavidB has mentioned:



The moderators and I generally discover that those people fighting the hardest (or loudest) have a personal interest of one sort or another.
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After reading the post by David Fermani he really brought up some good points, I as well remember the Zaino craze and purchased some to try because this is how you improve the level of work any service might be doing at that particular time.For so many novice or enthusiast detailers it is almost impossible for them to pick thru the hype on any product line or technique,and as this thread shows even pro's will go back in forth as there is always bias for one reason or another.



As for Dave(dsms or smoke on 6Speed)this guy is as passionate about detailing as any of us,at his age I was screwing around doing stupid stuff and when we talked in Vegas I felt like I was talking to a guy with twenty years in the biz(which I have)and we spoke about correction philosophy and all the stuff we had used which is all the known product lines everyone here uses. I can see where most people would say that Gloss-it has come from nowhere and now it is the flavor of the month,also because some people do not like Rich personally irregardless of the performance of the products there is a misconception of who he is, I made the very same assumptions when I first talked with him and discussed this with a prominent detailing product re-seller who will remain nameless(as I put rydawg into the mix on an earlier post relating to this thread and that was wrong for which I am sorry).



Remember sometimes guys treat the products like relegion and will not hear anything contrary to what they know or believe,as I stated here earlier and on other forums if you like what you are using continue with that but also be open minded and judge anything you see or hear based upon performance,because your customer will always let you know how they feel with thier wallet. I have lurked here on Autopia for a LONG time and have gleaned great info that helped me with the advancement of my paint correction abilities and for other parts of the vehicle ie:interior,wheels & tires ect....



In the end I hope my posts will be not so much infighting as they would be beneficial to the advancement of the forum to share ideas as well other insightfull things that help everyone,we all do this kind of work because we are car guys and love to make them look thier best,at least this is how I feel.
 
Just got off the phone with Todd let me call him at 9:00pm pacific so quick addition says it is beaucoup late in Florida.Anyway the call was very constructive as when you get two people one on one even if they agree to disagree you can come to an adult conclusion and I think that was accomplished.Maybe this thread can die a quick death and end with everyone coming to thier own conclusion about the products they use or will try in the future my .02$.
 
dsms said:
Bryan, did Rich name the 2 detailers who told him to call you? Because I did mention your name and company info to Rich on 2 ocasions. Im not covering for anybody but I should tell you that I have, on 2 ocasions (about 1 to 2 months ago) given your name and number to Rich, FYI. And when Rich also asked me about respected detailers outside of the US I told him about Clark.
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Of course he did, that is why I called them right after the owner called me.



The owner of the company did not mention you at all.



What I sense here is that there is an opportunity to discredit some very good dealers on this forum. For either not wanting to try a product due to conversations with the owner of the company, not having the time to try the products yet or maybe even they found the products to be average.
 
Bryan,



Really no one especially Dave is trying to discredit any(detailers)here.If you use a line and you get results continue on your present course and speed.
 
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