Boss foaming system - overview

Here`s the most important question of all....when will this stuff be available from someone else (i.e Autopia, Autogeek) other than Griots Garage?
 
briarpatch said:
Here`s the most important question of all....when will this stuff be available from someone else (i.e Autopia, Autogeek) other than Griots Garage?
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I ordered mine from DI, all in stock now except for surface prep.

Used mine last night for the first time. Super thick foam and smells great too. Sorry for the crappy video, my pressure washer has a flexible wand on it so it was hard to hold my phone and apply the foam at the same time. I`ll get a better one when the wife can shoot the video for me.

https://youtu.be/VwKN-EF9rvY
 
Too much stuff, Pro`s try an simplify the process not add more steps. I can properly decon a car with citrus wash or sometimes just straight 1Z W99, then Clay, dry and done. 3 soaps is 2 too many.
 
The Driver said:
Too much stuff, Pro`s try an simplify the process not add more steps. I can properly decon a car with citrus wash or sometimes just straight 1Z W99, then Clay, dry and done. 3 soaps is 2 too many.
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Actually, if you`re prepping for a detail you only need Surface Prep, which would replace your citrus wash or W99. Are you referring to Chemical Guys Citrus Wash?

People like to talk about using the 2 or 3 bucket method all the time but having more buckets doesn`t resolve the REAL issue, which is that fact that dirt is still on the paint when you touch. By using Surface Prep you remove virtually all dirt from the surface prior to actually touching the paint with a mitt and then you really only need one bucket as your wash solution should stay clean. Less dirt on the surface, less chance of marring.
 
What is surface prep though? Apc, Citrus base soap, Degreaser? Depends, I`m seeing alot more carbon Ceramics so I really watch what chemicals I`m using (Esp for prep) these days.
 
The Driver said:
What is surface prep though? Apc, Citrus base soap, Degreaser? Depends, I`m seeing alot more carbon Ceramics so I really watch what chemicals I`m using (Esp for prep) these days.
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You`d have to direct that question towards Jeff Brown. All I know is it`s more alkaline (Foaming Surface Prep has a high pH blend of detergents and other advanced active ingredients) and is nothing like foaming the car with citrus wash, which IME does little to nothing for removing dirt/road film.
 
RaskyR1 said:
I ordered mine from DI, all in stock now except for surface prep.

Used mine last night for the first time. Super thick foam and smells great too. Sorry for the crappy video, my pressure washer has a flexible wand on it so it was hard to hold my phone and apply the foam at the same time. I`ll get a better one when the wife can shoot the video for me.

https://youtu.be/VwKN-EF9rvY
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what pressure washer was that?
 
The problem with the cannon is no operating instructions, I assumed that the plus on the adjustable top knob was for more foam, it’s not, it’s for more water? Once we got that figured out it put out shaving cream!
 
This morning I drank the Kool Aid. Not the Griots Kool Aid - but the foam cannon Kool Aid.

Went through the whole thing with Bilt Hamber Snow Foam & HoneyDew in my foam cannon

I dunno. I think foaming is a feel good process. You see all that soap & feel like it must be doing something good.. Don’t get me wrong - I’ll do it from time to time - cuz why not? I have various soaps, the tools, and the facilities at my disposal. So, on a day off - I may spray some foam for fun.

But I find anyone making claims that foaming itself or with any specific tool/product does this or that a little suspect. You have to consider - the volume of what you are spraying is being highly diluted by the water from the pressure washer. It’s very close to pH neutral when it hits the panel. Why can’t you just dump a bucket of soapy water on your car and rinse it off? Nobody is doing that - but the net effect would not be significantly different IMO.

Foam cannons create a lotta bubbles and whatnot - but I really don’t think there is much benefit if any over just pressure washing the vehicle with water.. Of course, you can use a foam cannon as a soap dispenser to wash stuff & that works well.

Way I look at it is, in life - what else do you clean by simply spraying it with soap and rinsing it off? Not much. Prolly cuz the process isn’t very effective or efficient - unless you are using a very strong acid or base which is not soap.

I have obtained what I’d consider a healthy cynicism towards all detailing products and processes anymore. The industry is unregulated - anyone can claim anything in a bottle or any tool does anything and charge you a premium for it. You can claim some soap or chemical cleans something - but so can water if used in a certain manner. Nobody will tell us what is in these soaps that makes them “different” or better than any other soap out there.

My gut tells me dialing in a process that works for you will be much more beneficial than any specific soap or cleaner sprayed by any specific foam cannon. But, I guess this stuff does appeal to us on a level that is hard to define - cuz it does look fun to have your special bottles of stuff in special colors and a special foam cannon made just for those special bottles. I’m not saying it’s not fun or cool - I’m just saying I’d be leery of any actual different results vs using whatever else is out there.
 
Swanic I think anyone that has gone through a “touchless wash” would probably agree with you. If you examine your car afterwards there is always a film of something that needs to be mechanically removed and I’m sure the soap they use is pretty strong stuff. I do foam my vehicles but I know I am also going to have to “rub” afterwards to get them really clean. For me the foam is just a prewash to remove some of the surface dirt.
 
I can honestly say the Griot’s wash does remove dirt! Even on a very dirty car, it removed about 80 percent of the dirt. That means there’s less of a chance to scratch the car. They don’t claim it’s a never touch your car wash, they tell you to follow up with a bucket wash if you need to.
 
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