beaten again...chrysler sebring convertible (white)

Shaun Carollo said:
..its harder to see holograms/swirls in a white car, or because it actually is harder to heat up the paint..
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The heating up is something I hadn't thought of! Might be something to that, it does make sense. And yeah, spotting stuff on white/silver is a royal pain. The one time I got the S8 just right I spent at least as much time inspecting as I did polishing, and it took many hours. It was just such a pain that I haven't polished it since (and it's been nearly 2.5 years :o ).



.. accumulator you are right about the mineral in it..
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I only knew it wasn't talc because I'd discussed how soft talc is with Irene at TOL (it's used in some *very* mild polishes, like Zymol's HD Cleanse IIRC).



G35stilez- Smart move, quitting before it was too late on that BMW (*especially* a cool car like that). I seem to run into similar stuff a lot on our cars, and when a few passes with H-T EC won't do it I decide I'd better just live with it. Stuff like wetsanding/etc., really aggressive approaches, makes me worry about how much paint's coming off and you'd sure hate to mess up a client's twenty-one year old car.
 
Shaun Carollo said:
I still think white cars (whether cc or ss) are harder to buff then other colors. This could be because its harder to see holograms/swirls in a white car, or because it actually is harder to heat up the paint. I remember reading an article about it a couple years ago and yes accumulator you are right about the mineral in it. I don't want this to turn into another corvette buffing argument, these are just my observations.



Shaun
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I agree that it's more difficult to see the swirls in lighter colors as you have to get the angle *just* right in the right lighting to see them. As far as the heat issue, I don't agree. Given that both cars are subjected to the same conditions(in the shade), you're heating the surface with friction and the metal is what will maintain that heat. It doesn't matter what color the paint is in this instance. Put both cars in the sun and have to polish there and the story changes, A LOT!:D
 
Accumulator said:
G35stilez- Smart move, quitting before it was too late on that BMW (*especially* a cool car like that). I seem to run into similar stuff a lot on our cars, and when a few passes with H-T EC won't do it I decide I'd better just live with it. Stuff like wetsanding/etc., really aggressive approaches, makes me worry about how much paint's coming off and you'd sure hate to mess up a client's twenty-one year old car.
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Especially when his brand new Ford GT is in the garage, potentially waiting for my services :D.
 
Hey.. I'm new here and was reading around on some threads and came across this. Thought I'd show my car and the shine I have on white. It's not hard! :2thumbs:



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What ya'll think?? :waxing: :usa



Chris
 
paradigm said:
anyone ever do a "normal" or "easy" white car?!?
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yes - subaru sti white was very easy to correct. Even with the pc and ohc the car got swirl free. BTW, I also worked on a saab wagon (the subaru version) that was black but very easy to correct. I once worked on a ss white 745 bmw that was so deeply scretched on the trunk that wool/ssr3 barely touched it. I gave up on making it the trunk/hood swirl free. :grrr
 
Here's another photo after having FMJ on the car for 4 months and weekly wash. This was being prepared for a corvette calender shoot. I just washed it and it was ready to go. :2thumbs:



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Shaun Carollo said:
White paint is much harder than any other color, because of the mineral giving it its white color, talc I believe.
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LOL! Talc is a very soft mineral. The pigment in single stage white comes from titanium dioxide, a hardness of 8 on the Moh's Hardness Scale IIRC. As SpoiledMan said, this only applies to single stage paints. It doesn't matter how hard the basecoat is if it's covered by clear.
 
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