technomafia
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XRL said:
So how long would you recommend NXT sitting on your care before you wipe off to get a better result?
Autoglym HD Wax VS Meg's Tech Wax 2.0--which one is better?
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So how long would you recommend NXT sitting on your care before you wipe off to get a better result?
wvmystichrome
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yakky said:Are those rags sitting on the ground???? YIKES.
Yes those are the dirty ones that go into their own container and to the washing machine. If I am using a rag they stay right with me. If I lay a rag down for any reason I get a fresh one out of my rag contained. I also have rags just for my wheels. Some for under the hood. The rest are for the car. I am very careful of how I use and maintain my rags. If I lay them on the ground then I know I don't pick them up except to go into the washing machine container.
Good eyes though. I usually drop them straight into the wash container.
wvmystichrome
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XRL said:
Good points. One thing a lot of people have forgotten is Meguirs is now own and manufactured by 3M. Does this mean quality is better. I'm sure it is. 3M manufactures all kinds of paint products for the body shop and detail industry. I watched a guy from 3M a year and a half ago use 3M products and did amazing things. Its really all about what a person likes. A lot hate Meguirs stuff and a quite a few can not afford to spend $25.00 - $50.00 on a bottle of wax. So to each his own.
technomafia said:
I'd say as long as possible. Typically I try to wax my whole SUV with NXT then do the interior and tires and stuff, and whatever else I can, then buff it off. A quick google search turned up people recommending 20-30 minutes for it to set up, and if possible 12 hours before water hits it. And they recommend doing a second coat to make sure everything is nice an evenly coated afterwards. I'd imagine a lot of it has to do with climate and how much wax you use, but I think typically when I use NXT it works out to about 30 minutes to an hour before I buff it off. And it will last for a few months too.
Another key thing about making your wax last is upkeep. Everything is wearing your wax off on a daily basis, and when you wash your car you're taking some off too. That's why I either use a wash & wax in one step ( I like Surf City Garage's wash & wax, but there's plenty of other great ones out there- Megs just came out with one too), or use a spray wax after using normal wash. The spray wax isn't there to be a new coat of wax, it's there to be a booster to the existing wax. I don't know if for sure the wax/polymers will combine together, or if you're just putting another layer on top (I suspect it has to do with what type of wax you're using and what type of spray wax), but I do know that I've seen a significant improvement in the lifespan of my wax jobs by doing this.
wvmystichrome
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XRL, have you tried the Meguirs Ultimate Quick spray wax. For a quick touch up it is wonderful and really smells good too. I'll tell you how good it is. I used it on our air hockey table. I sprayed it on a cloth and then wiped it on and then polished it off. I did this twice. The pucks speed along so fast my daughter is somewhat afraid to play. She says its to fast now. So I know it is working great on my paint.
I haven't tried it yet, though I've heard good things. I've mostly been using E1 Nanowax, and just picked up some of the AA spray wax stuff as my E1 was getting low.
I've used Ultimate Quik Detailer and liked it a lot. It never happens to be on sale when I am looking for a spray wax though. I want to try Aquawax too.
I've used Ultimate Quik Detailer and liked it a lot. It never happens to be on sale when I am looking for a spray wax though. I want to try Aquawax too.
imported_tim
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XRL said:. Plus, NXT works wonders on wheels
A big +1 for NXT on wheels. Two winters ago, I put several layers of NXT 1.0, then 2.0 on the winter wheels of my GTI. It lasted all winter, they cleaned up nicely in the spring, everything was good.
Last October I decided to try FK1000P on my wheels since it gets rave reviews
in the durability department. Again, 3 or 4 layers before they went on the car.The wheels cleaned up fairly nice a week ago when I took them off, but....they have stains on them that I never got with the NXT.
The stains look to be easily removable with some clay and maybe AIO, but they weren't there with the NXT.
Next winter ? I'm going back to NXT.
imported_tim
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XRL said:
True that.
I also think that some of the Meg's products get "bad press" simply because they're available OTC. My goodness, we wouldn't want to be caught using a Meg's product that just anyone can walk into the local Wal-Mart and buy, would we ? We like the exclusivity of harder to find, or even "pro" grade stuff.
For instance M21 gets rave reviews, yet it's darned near a duplicate of NXT.
(or is that M20? )
M105 and 205 are the current darlings of the polish set. Can't get them
otc. M16 gets a LOT of buzz now that it's hard to get in the States.
What I wonder is, now that AG HD is commonly available at Wal-Mart of all places, how long before it loses it's cachet and becomes another has been ?
nosbusa1700
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The HD reminds me of some of the higher priced waxes I have. Besides the looks of it.. The paint stays pretty clean, even in the rain, and the HD wax makes my vehicles very easy to wash.
Just to confirm.. HD won't stain your trim.
NXT 2.0 is a good wax as well, but will stain the trim if left to dry. It's also kind of oily and left streaks on my paint.. But if I had light scratches, or swirls and didn't want to correct the paint, it's likely the product I would reach for.
If your paint is in good shape the HD wax is the one I would chose. jmo
Just to confirm.. HD won't stain your trim.
NXT 2.0 is a good wax as well, but will stain the trim if left to dry. It's also kind of oily and left streaks on my paint.. But if I had light scratches, or swirls and didn't want to correct the paint, it's likely the product I would reach for.
If your paint is in good shape the HD wax is the one I would chose. jmo
WaxManRonnie
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NXT liquid has some cleaners in it. With that
said, it cannot be layered. I talked to a rep from Meguiars
about that and he said the same thing. The paste on the
other hand he claims is slightly different. Not sure
why it isn't marketed that way. But I've never tried the
paste. I've tried the liquid. And it's pretty much so so. Nothing
spectacular whatsoever. It looks nice, easy to apply & take off.
But no liquid or paste should require you to leave on for
more than a half hour for maximum results. I think thats
just ridiculous. For a true sealant, you can't beat
Collinite 845. At least with that. I don't have to worry about
getting it on trim.
My .02.....
said, it cannot be layered. I talked to a rep from Meguiars
about that and he said the same thing. The paste on the
other hand he claims is slightly different. Not sure
why it isn't marketed that way. But I've never tried the
paste. I've tried the liquid. And it's pretty much so so. Nothing
spectacular whatsoever. It looks nice, easy to apply & take off.
But no liquid or paste should require you to leave on for
more than a half hour for maximum results. I think thats
just ridiculous. For a true sealant, you can't beat
Collinite 845. At least with that. I don't have to worry about
getting it on trim.
My .02.....
wvmystichrome
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spookertunes said:True that.
I also think that some of the Meg's products get "bad press" simply because they're available OTC. My goodness, we wouldn't want to be caught using a Meg's product that just anyone can walk into the local Wal-Mart and buy, would we ? We like the exclusivity of harder to find, or even "pro" grade stuff.
For instance M21 gets rave reviews, yet it's darned near a duplicate of NXT.
(or is that M20? )
M105 and 205 are the current darlings of the polish set. Can't get them
otc. M16 gets a LOT of buzz now that it's hard to get in the States.
What I wonder is, now that AG HD is commonly available at Wal-Mart of all places, how long before it loses it's cachet and becomes another has been ?
Preach it brother. You hit the nail on the head. If its OTC....its most likely no good. If its mail order and hard to get....people say its the best. Lets go with, try it and see for yourself whether you like it or not. $10.00 and some change will not break the average car guy.
OP give it a shot. If you don't like it step up to another. Then on and on until you find what you like.
Good thread guys.
Junebug
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I'm sold on Autoglym HD and I've tried more friggin waxes/sealants over the years than I care to think of. FWIW - Megs - NXTv1 &v2 +M21, are ok - just that- ok. Not bad, but not great either. In this "yellow haze" of pollen here in NC, my wife's Highlander with 1 coat of AGHD, has been the easiest to wash and doesn't seem to "attrack" pollen like my car, which is currenty in a test (Blackfire WD vs HD Poxy). Personally, it's getting a light polish and a coat of Autoglym as soon as my back feels like working again (ruptured a disc!)
Thanks for all of the great replies and advice.
I went ahead and got the AG HD last night from Wal-Mart for $34.98 and applied it about an hour ago. I've got to say I was pretty impressed. It was VERY easy to apply. I dampened the applicator and applied to hood of car first and worked my way around, doing the roof last. I used very little of the wax, as instructed. A little really does go a LONG way! This stuff should last me a few years at least(that's if I wax about 4 or 5 times a year).
Buffing off was easier in some spots than in others. In some spots it appeared somewhat oily, but I suspect I may have used more than needed in some spots. I didn't worry about the trim, another big plus for me, and even actually applied it on purpose to the left side mirror, which is a flat matte black plastic. It did ok when buffing out. Not shiny or anything(like Armor All can do) but I wasn't really going for shiny. Will the AG wax help protect the trim from drying and fading with age as well?
I also applied the wax to one wheel on the car to see how it does with brake dust, etc. If it goes well, I will apply to all wheels.....I was just worn out by the time I got to the wheels b/c I had to cut grass and edge before I washed the car LOL
Since I just did this, I don't know how the water beads/sheets etc or the durability, but I look forward to finding out.
The car looks great, but then again, it's only 3 weeks old, so it was pretty shiny and great to begin with.
Overall, I'm pretty pleased with the AG HD wax. $35 isn't that much when you consider how little of it you actually use and how long it should last.
1 question however. My paint will eventually develop some swirls, light scratches etc. I try to avoid them, but I'm not as anal as most on here, so I know they will happen. Some have said that the Tech wax is good for filling in minor swirls, scratches, etc? Is this correct? Once these blemishes occur, can I still use the AG HD, or is it time to move on to something that will help with the swirls, scratches?
Thanks again and I look forward to learning more
I went ahead and got the AG HD last night from Wal-Mart for $34.98 and applied it about an hour ago. I've got to say I was pretty impressed. It was VERY easy to apply. I dampened the applicator and applied to hood of car first and worked my way around, doing the roof last. I used very little of the wax, as instructed. A little really does go a LONG way! This stuff should last me a few years at least(that's if I wax about 4 or 5 times a year).
Buffing off was easier in some spots than in others. In some spots it appeared somewhat oily, but I suspect I may have used more than needed in some spots. I didn't worry about the trim, another big plus for me, and even actually applied it on purpose to the left side mirror, which is a flat matte black plastic. It did ok when buffing out. Not shiny or anything(like Armor All can do) but I wasn't really going for shiny. Will the AG wax help protect the trim from drying and fading with age as well?
I also applied the wax to one wheel on the car to see how it does with brake dust, etc. If it goes well, I will apply to all wheels.....I was just worn out by the time I got to the wheels b/c I had to cut grass and edge before I washed the car LOL
Since I just did this, I don't know how the water beads/sheets etc or the durability, but I look forward to finding out.
The car looks great, but then again, it's only 3 weeks old, so it was pretty shiny and great to begin with.
Overall, I'm pretty pleased with the AG HD wax. $35 isn't that much when you consider how little of it you actually use and how long it should last.
1 question however. My paint will eventually develop some swirls, light scratches etc. I try to avoid them, but I'm not as anal as most on here, so I know they will happen. Some have said that the Tech wax is good for filling in minor swirls, scratches, etc? Is this correct? Once these blemishes occur, can I still use the AG HD, or is it time to move on to something that will help with the swirls, scratches?
Thanks again and I look forward to learning more
WaxManRonnie
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globe9 said:1 question however. My paint will eventually develop some swirls, light scratches etc. I try to avoid them, but I'm not as anal as most on here, so I know they will happen. Some have said that the Tech wax is good for filling in minor swirls, scratches, etc? Is this correct? Once these blemishes occur, can I still use the AG HD, or is it time to move on to something that will help with the swirls, scratches?
Thanks again and I look forward to learning more
Your better off eliminating them if they come back. If you decide to be "lazy" (no offense please), and cover them up, there are far better products that can do the job than NXT.
Just curious, do you have a PC or other polisher? You should look into one
if you don't.
Washing is critical. Don't go to an auto wash. Use a good product. And buy some nice sponges. 2 bucket method or an ONR wash is what I would do.
WaxManRonnie said:
What OTC products for covering up swirl marks and light scratches are best for a black car?
No, I don't have a PC or polisher and really don't want to start spending that much $$$, nor would I even know how to use one and I don't want to damage the paint.
I will never take my car to an auto wash. I used Meg's Gold Class shampoo with a MF mitt I picked up at Pep Boys. I do use the 2 bucket method as well(learned that on here).
I want what the best I can absolutely do with OTC products and a minimal amount of work(usually wash every weekend and wax maybe every 3 or 4 months).....like I've said before, I am more anal than the average person, but no where near as anal as most of the people on this forum. This car is a daily driver and not a showpiece, but I would like to keep it looking great for a long time to come.....within reason for me....I'm not lazy, but I won't spend 6 hours every Saturday detailing it...just not THAT important to me...I will spend an hour or two however.
Anyway, thanks again! Love the AG HD!
CHEVYMAN
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I couldn't be happier i just got AutoGlym HD from WalMart and can't wait to use it :woot2:
