$1,500.00 wax?

No. No it's not. What a waste of money.

I can't even bring myself to buy Souveran for $60. Paste Glaz at $25.00 was as high as I'll go for a jar of wax.



$1500...I could almost get a turbo kit for that much.
 
I agree with Ben. Everyone will have their own opinoin. On the upside, for $1500 you do get free lifetime refills and it smells great. So, if you like it you'll never have to pay for it again. I myself use this wax on my car. However, I did not buy the $1500 version. I got a smaller container which is sold in the Zymol Pebble Beach Sampler kit ($179). Check it out on Zymol.com. Anyway, I think as far as hand applied products Zymol is the best. However, I believe you can get similar results with a buffer if you properly prep the paint. I just prefer to apply by hand on my personal car as it creates much less friction than a buffer. Therefore, decreasing the possibility of paint marring. Also, this wax is used on half the cars at the Pebble Beach Concours d'Elegance every year. So, I figure it must be pretty good. I would think if you had unlimited resources to buy a wax and you buy this one it must be pretty good.
 
How many refills would you need to make up the $1500???

I have a jar of Paste Glaz (8oz) that has lasted me over a year, and that's my most used wax. I use it every 3-4 weeks.



Honestly, the finish comes from the prep. The LSP makes very little difference compared to the polishing/cleaning steps. Pretty soon Zymol's gonna come out with some magic polish for $25000 that contains diamond dust as abrasives and extremely rich people will rave about it. :rolleyes:
 
Mikeyc said:
I would think if you had unlimited resources to buy a wax and you buy this one it must be pretty good.
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I think the people that own those cars probably have more money than they know what to do with anyway. $60 for Souveran, or $1500 for Zymol. It's not a big difference to those people, obviously.



I'd like to see a comparison of two side-by-side panels, equally prepped, one with $1500 Zymol and one with $15 Nattys.
 
White95Max said:
How many refills would you need to make up the $1500???

I have a jar of Paste Glaz (8oz) that has lasted me over a year, and that's my most used wax. I use it every 3-4 weeks.



Honestly, the finish comes from the prep. The LSP makes very little difference compared to the polishing/cleaning steps. Pretty soon Zymol's gonna come out with some magic polish for $25000 that contains diamond dust as abrasives and extremely rich people will rave about it. :rolleyes:
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:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl
 
White95Max said:
How many refills would you need to make up the $1500???

I have a jar of Paste Glaz (8oz) that has lasted me over a year, and that's my most used wax. I use it every 3-4 weeks.



Honestly, the finish comes from the prep. The LSP makes very little difference compared to the polishing/cleaning steps. Pretty soon Zymol's gonna come out with some magic polish for $25000 that contains diamond dust as abrasives and extremely rich people will rave about it. :rolleyes:
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OK. To add to my post above . . . people are definitely going to bash Zymol because it's expensive which it is. It's happened on every website I've ever been on. Frankly, I don't understand it. I've never heard anyone bash Rolex. You can tell time just as well with a Seiko. Anyway, as I said, I like to use Zymol products because they get me great results without using a buffer and also contain no abrasives whatsoever (really no diamond dust). My 4 oz. jar of Vintage has lasted me two years and I still have plenty left. However, clearly anyone who would spend $1500 for this stuff has to have their head examined when you can get it much cheaper as part of the Pebble Beach Sampler.
 
At first it sounds expensive, but when you read that it comes with an "awe-inspiring, crystalline chest", it just makes it all worth it.
 
Mikeyc said:
I've never heard anyone bash Rolex. You can tell time just as well with a Seiko.
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I'll happily bash Rolex. That's a waste too. Spending more money on a watch that is very precise and reliable for years and years...that's one thing. But spending a lot more money just for a brand name (with any type of product), that's something I don't understand.



Anyway, as I said, I like to use Zymol products because they get me great results without using a buffer and also contain no abrasives whatsoever (really no diamond dust).
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Any pure wax will not contain abrasives. Nattys, #16, Paste Glaz, Souveran, Signature Series...



My 4 oz. jar of Vintage has lasted me two years and I still have plenty left. However, clearly anyone who would spend $1500 for this stuff has to have their head examined when you can get it much cheaper as part of the Pebble Beach Sampler.
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The people that spend $1500 just want to be able to say they have a $1500 wax. Or they don't care about finding the best price. They have money to waste.



Does the wax come in that fancy glass case when it's part of the Pebble Beach Sampler? Maybe that case is worth an extra $1300 to those people. :nixweiss
 
Actually none of the Zymol products contain abrasives including HD-Cleanse. Which is why it's not good for taking out serious scratches or bad swirling. It really only seems to take out the lightest of paint problems.



Maybe the case is made out of some expensive crystal and it is worth 100's of dollars extra. :LOLOL



Also, I understand why you don't see the point of spending extra money on Zymol or Rolex or whatever. A lot of people don't. However, there are also a lot of people who don't understand why someone would spend the time to keep their car so shiney when you can just take it through the car wash. There are even more people who see a car as a way to get from A to B and don't see the point of spending one cent to keep it clean. There are also people who don't understand why anyone would buy a Mercedes or want a convertible. Everyone has their own opinoin on what is worth spending the money on based on their own budget and personal tastes. Personally, I try to be open minded to other people's situations and base my opinoin that way. I myself have no income whatsoever currently as I am a full time student. So, I would consider buying a Rolex a waste of money. However, if I was making a million dollars a year I would probably buy 5 of them or more. :grinno:
 
White95Max said:
I'll happily bash Rolex. That's a waste too. Spending more money on a watch that is very precise and reliable for years and years...that's one thing. But spending a lot more money just for a brand name (with any type of product), that's something I don't understand.
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LOL, my Rolex is the worst timepiece that I've ever owned. It's a heck of a good-looking watch, and the difference between it and a Pulsar is obvious, but it don't keep time worth squat.



Thing is, if you don't have one you'd never spend the money on one. But ifyou have one, you don't feel like selling it either. I received mine as an incentive award for performance. I'd never trade the watch for its equivalent in dollars. But I would have never spent the money on it, either.





Tom
 
Mikeyc said:
Actually none of the Zymol products contain abrasives including HD-Cleanse. Which is why it's not good for taking out serious scratches or bad swirling. It really only seems to take out the lightest of paint problems.
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If it's non-abrasive, it's not taking out any paint problems, regardless of their severity. It must have fillers in it as well.
 
I would never buy it...even if I was rich as hell, I highly doubt that anyone could say that it looks better then Souveran in a head to head comparison. On the site it says it has 61% carnauba, I believe I read somewhere that one you get over something like 40% the wax becomes translucent not clear, and your just blurring the paint that lays underneath. Someone can correct me if Im wrong, but just becasue a wax has so much carnaubu dosent mean its better.
 
Mikeyc said:
...people are definitely going to bash Zymol because it's expensive which it is...



...they get me great results without using a buffer and also contain no abrasives whatsoever...



...anyone who would spend $1500 for this stuff has to have their head examined when you can get it much cheaper as part of the Pebble Beach Sampler.
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Nobody will bash that price class except those who know exactly that the same or even better results can be obtained using products that cost 10-20 dollars. Yes, it is expensive but you can find a special blend Swissol (for the same target market; dumb & dumber or rich & richer) for US$2000. The unjustifiable price gives a product an aural overflow but nothing objective. Knowing the price the shine is instantly better - in the user's mind, who will stupidly stare his car... Believe me, when you'd heat up Souverän, put a few drops of food coloring & fruit frangrance in it, and you'd put it into an even fancier crystal or wooden box, it would sell for even $5000.



Any filling wax will give you great results without a buffer because they will lie you about the surface of your finish. Correct results = correct prep. And besides, the buffer's friction will show you the true potential of your paint.



No real beauty wax contains abrasives.



Yes, they have to have their heads examined. But the 179$ kit is awesome. Well said, but I will stick to my $18 Finish Kare kits and will sit all day long next to my car stupidly staring my exquisite shine.



...and although our facial expressions might be similar, but he has followed the "results by superstimulus" path while I have that superstimulus by the results.





PS: I've tried it.
 
4830Deuce said:
I would never buy it...even if I was rich as hell, I highly doubt that anyone could say that it looks better then Souveran in a head to head comparison. On the site it says it has 61% carnauba, I believe I read somewhere that one you get over something like 40% the wax becomes translucent not clear, and your just blurring the paint that lays underneath. Someone can correct me if Im wrong, but just becasue a wax has so much carnaubu dosent mean its better.
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My Uncle was using Sovereign until he tried some of my Zymol Vintage. Now he uses Vintage. He was superstimulated by the results. The price meant nothing to him, because he bought the PB Sampler like I did. Also, HD-cleanse acts chemically instead of using abrasives. It basically breaks down oxidized paint which rounds off the corners of scratches and swirls. I get into this argument about what's so great about Zymol all the time. All I have to say is I've been using it happily for many years and the finish on my car is awesome. I may have spent more on the products, but I didn't spend a dime on a buffer, pads, or even an extension cord.
 
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