You just can't help some people...

You had the best intentions but I think NickelPlated.45 is right. I wouldn't have reacted in the same way he did but I HATE finding solicitation under my wipers. Pisses me off like nothing else to think of someone touching my truck when I'm not around. He may have reacted differently if you had talked to him a little and handed him a card.
 
NickelPlated.45 said:
Well to be honest i wouldn't like anyone putting anything on my car either. Especially advertisements. And that's basically what you did when you put your business card on some random car. I hate solicitors. I'm not trying to cause any static here, i'm just staying it's better practice to HAND someone your business card when you know they are interested in your business.



+1

I find it very frustrating that people would put bunch of ads under my wipers, especially the thought of them touching my car freaks me out. But your intention was good, but probably just not the right approach.
 
phamkl said:
Black Escalade, dropped, sitting on 24" chrome wheels.



That should tell you a lot about the owner. That setup makes a pointless vehicle, a luxurious utility vehicle, into a worthless vehicle, one that can't even perform what it was supposedly designed to do. It's too low to offroad, the wheels are too large to ride comfortably, the size and weight of the chromies are like anchors to the engine, and in all, it just thunders around drinking more than its fair share of gas.



One so vain as to drop a 'lade and run 24" chromies is probably an always right, self riteous, sky-high nosed snobby-*** mofo; I wouldn't knowingly go near any of these drivers.



Of course, I generalize. But I've yet to encounter anyone who drives such a car, who is cool, in any sense of the word.



Sounds to me that you're meeting the wrong people. And for the record.... a 24" rim on the latest escalade really isn't all that big... proportionally the size of the fender opening on these new generation of GM vehicles is so huge that anything less than a 22 almost looks silly... case in point... my brothers 07 Avalanche LTZ on 26's (and as for ride quality... it still rides as good as it did stock... theres a lot of misconception out there about large wheels and poor ride quality)



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To call any vehicle "pointless" is a little loose generalization IMO... the joy of customizing is you can build a vehicle to do whatever you want. In this case the guy most likely just wanted a flashy cruiser... not everyone (especially in socal) uses an SUV for offroading, towing, or anything really. For cryin out loud I drive an SUV with corvette engine under the hood... if thats not pointless I don't know what is, but you know what else it is? Lots of fun :D





NickelPlated.45 said:
Well to be honest i wouldn't like anyone putting anything on my car either. Especially advertisements. And that's basically what you did when you put your business card on some random car. I hate solicitors. I'm not trying to cause any static here, i'm just staying it's better practice to HAND someone your business card when you know they are interested in your business.



While I appreciate your point, it wasn't intended as advertising. First and foremost I just wanted the guy to know I though he had a really nice ride... and as a fellow enthusiast I offered to help him out with an obvious problem. If I had a post-it note handy I could've written a much more detailed list of my intention, but I was writing on the back of a business card so I was pretty limited as to how I was gonna get my point across.





pb_foots said:
Let me guess, Orange County? The guy is probably paying someone big bucks to ruin his paint for him, how dare you notice the swirls!



I love those guys. I see high dollar black cars all the time down here that look like they were buffed at the 9 dollar swirl-o-matic car wash.



No good deed goes unpunished! You did the right thing, it's just too bad it wasn't taken that way.



Close.... Rancho Cucamonga... the OC of the IE :har:
 
That is a nice Avalanche. I would buy one if I could get it with the 6.2 liter. How are the aftermarket options for the Avy?



Anywase, I am with Dylan, nothing looks more "classy" than an Escalade with big rims, especially if there is a nice lookin' female driving it, nothing hotter......

I have 22's on my truck and it rides better than the stock tires.



But I don't agree with lowering an Escalade. Than again, I am from North Dakota where lowering anything doesn't make sense.



ON TOPIC: Nice try Dylan, I also hate to see when people have no concideration when it comes to taking caring of there nice vehicle. I try to tell my dad the same thing when he is cleaning his Black 07 Suburban. He drives through touchless car washes, and then finishes it off with Quick Detailer, talking about swirls.
 
I do agree with some of the posters that if you had approached him personally it could have been another story. I only say this because I had a similar issue happen to me in the past. I too am one of those that hates when stuff is hanging on my windshield.



On a separate note...



LQ9SS said:
Anywase, I am with Dylan, nothing looks more "classy" than an Escalade with big rims, especially if there is a nice lookin' female driving it, nothing hotter......



Classy is not really the word that comes to mind when I think of the Escalade. I think of Flashy and Bling though.



Here is classy to me: :D



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Persoanlly, and no offense to anyone, but I too would of been pi$$ed off if someone left that note on my car. For one, if I cared about it I am sure I could hit the yellow pages and find a detailer. The last detailer I would use is one that spammed on my car. I get enough spam in my emails, at my front door and telemarketers throughout the day that the very last thing I need is spam on my car too. Leaving a note like that one someones car is not very professional advertising in my eyes.
 
While I appreciate your point, it wasn't intended as advertising. First and foremost I just wanted the guy to know I though he had a really nice ride... and as a fellow enthusiast I offered to help him out with an obvious problem. If I had a post-it note handy I could've written a much more detailed list of my intention, but I was writing on the back of a business card so I was pretty limited as to how I was gonna get my point across.

If it wasn't intended as advertising you would of put, "I'll clean your car for free!" ;)
 
ej8tunerman said:
I think what probably angered him the most is the fact that you asked him if he ever wanted to remove those scratches and swirls to give you a call. He probably took that as an insult.



...probably because he takes care of his car himself and did all that damage.
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I usually just leave a business card with a note saying "great looking car, I'd love the chance to work on it".
 
Danase said:
Leaving a note like that one someones car is not very professional advertising in my eyes.



Be selective and it works. Just one business card on an Acura Legend back in 1995 has not only got me that person as a twice a month client, but the rest of his family that works with him in their business and numerous referrals over the years.



If they can see the card is only on their car and no one else's, it might make them think you thought their car was the only one worthy of your services. I actually had the owner of a black NSX tell me that. I put a card on his driver's window, tucked into the weather stripping. When he saw the card, his first instinct was to toss it until he noticed no other cars had one. At that point, he realized that whoever put the card there wasn't just blanketing the parking lot with business cards but specifically chose his car to put it on. Anyway, he called the next morning and asked for a few referrences, gave him some and an hour or so later, he calls back and says "wow, your customers really love your work, when can you detail my car?" :)
 
Scottwax said:
Be selective and it works. Just one business card on an Acura Legend back in 1995 has not only got me that person as a twice a month client, but the rest of his family that works with him in their business and numerous referrals over the years.



If they can see the card is only on their car and no one else's, it might make them think you thought their car was the only one worthy of your services. I actually had the owner of a black NSX tell me that. I put a card on his driver's window, tucked into the weather stripping. When he saw the card, his first instinct was to toss it until he noticed no other cars had one. At that point, he realized that whoever put the card there wasn't just blanketing the parking lot with business cards but specifically chose his car to put it on. Anyway, he called the next morning and asked for a few referrences, gave him some and an hour or so later, he calls back and says "wow, your customers really love your work, when can you detail my car?" :)



I think a card is a little different than a card with a note saying..."If you want the scratches out give me a call." ;)



I think Scottwax is going about it in a better way. You just don't want it to sound like you think the car needs some work. On card you might have wanted to say what scottwax said on his. Or something like, "Nice Cadillac! If you ever need it detailed I would be honored to serve you." Or something like that.
 
lmao, good story.



just remember there are a******'s everywhere. he obviously doesnt know how to take care of his ride and you hurt his ego. or he's just a ***** either way one door closes another opens.
 
I think a personal approach would have been even worse! I have never met anyone that I did not dislike, that had wheels larger than 20". Of course, I live in Orange County so that ought to explain a large part of it, but from my experience, these guys with huge wheels are out to show off and be noticed. They're the people who mod their cars specifically so that people will say, "whoa" when they drive by. Any mention of that their prized show piece isn't as much of a looker as they wanted will sometimes raise tempers and blood pressure.



Once I made fun of a friend's v6 Mustang that was riding on 20"s and boy did he go crazy. Once in a coffee shop I was surmising the relationship between amount of chrome and ego size when a complete stranger stops and tells me I'm a no class ricer. Those two are the outstanding examples... So yea, I'm pretty sure I've been meeting the wrong people :(



But still, I hate the look of big wheels. It looks better on SUVs because the wheels aren't proportionally as big as they would be on cars (ever seen 20"s on a Scion tC? Where's the rubber??) But like kapinnn, big wheels, especially chrome wheels, are just flashy and blingy to me.



For me, classiness gets a second glance from those with discerning taste.
 
oh and btw, the twin turbo i did on the 4th of july was due to me stopping and asking him if he knew what the plastic brush was doing to his h1, it's important not to come off like a smartass but that's where your sales abilities need to come in. ill be posting both his h1's and a few of his friends thanks to one question.
 
Black Escalade, dropped, sitting on 24" chrome wheels.



That should tell you a lot about the owner. That setup makes a pointless vehicle, a luxurious utility vehicle, into a worthless vehicle, one that can't even perform what it was supposedly designed to do. It's too low to offroad, the wheels are too large to ride comfortably, the size and weight of the chromies are like anchors to the engine, and in all, it just thunders around drinking more than its fair share of gas.



One so vain as to drop a 'lade and run 24" chromies is probably an always right, self riteous, sky-high nosed snobby-*** mofo; I wouldn't knowingly go near any of these drivers.



Of course, I generalize. But I've yet to encounter anyone who drives such a car, who is cool, in any sense of the word.



I agree 100%. The guy probably spent 4k or more on the wheels and tires let alone anything done to the suspension. If they wanted the paint to look nice then they would spend the $400-500 to have it detailed properly. This kind of person more times then not doesn't care how their car looks in a parking lot, they're only worried about how they look when they are driving in it. This is just a generalization of course but is true more times than not.
 
Danase said:
Leaving a note like that one someones car is not very professional advertising in my eyes.



Again, and for the last time, I wasn't intending or directing it to the owner of the vehicle as ADVERTISING... do you guys hand write a note on every business card, flyer, or advertisement that goes out to your customers?? If so I'm impressed.



It was simply intended, from one enthusiast to another, as a friendly offer to correct some very obvious damage to his paint. To be honest, had he called and wanted work done I most likely would've done it at a discount b/c I liked the truck. I am into customizing, especially GM trucks and SUV's... and this looked to be a like minded individual.



More often than not I think the Escalade owners you guys are thinking about are the ones that just slap some gawdy rims on and call it a day. Guys who couldn't tell you whats under the hood, what it'll do in the 1/4, or how much HP it has... just how many inches of rim they've got. I wish I had taken a picture b/c this one was different... 99 out of 100 of them I see have ZERO suspension work or much else for that matter... this was that one exceptional case where you could tell there was more going on. I think there is a distinct difference between a person who puts big rims on just b/c its "the thing to do" and a person who does it as part of the overall look.



As for the knocks on big rims, suspension work, etc... I guess I'm talking to the wrong crowd, b/c I don't think a car is really worth a **** unless you put touches on it. Exceptions to this rule would be super high end sports cars... but for the most part, driving an unmodified car seems more pointless to me than anything.



For the record my last ride was an AWD Silverado SS... 22" rims... lowered 3" in front, 4" in back... tons of go fast goodies... an exhaust that would make you deaf... custom audio and video... even full 5.1 surround sound and dual front monitors... and guess what? Completely not practical!! I even pulled the spare tire & tow hitch off to fit the custom roll pan... so I couldn't even tow with it... but I loved it more than anything. Just remember different strokes for different folks... just b/c you don't mod your ride doesn't mean that people who do are in the wrong.



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and you really can't tell me this Esky doesn't look like a million bucks...



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24" Intro Pentias on a 2/3 drop.



Or my friend Jason's truck... practical? Not at all.



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Robbie Azevedo's 48 Impression... supercharged, bagged, hand built, w/ a computer in the center console... no roof. Practial? Definitely not.



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Dylan06SS said:
and you really can't tell me this Esky doesn't look like a million bucks...



Let me try:



It.....does.....not. There I said it.



Joking aside, I'm not really into chrome and big SUVs but I understand people like different things. I love Porsches and my father despises them. Then again, he can't afford them anyway...
 
phamkl said:
Black Escalade, dropped, sitting on 24" chrome wheels.



That should tell you a lot about the owner. That setup makes a pointless vehicle, a luxurious utility vehicle, into a worthless vehicle, one that can't even perform what it was supposedly designed to do. It's too low to offroad, the wheels are too large to ride comfortably, the size and weight of the chromies are like anchors to the engine, and in all, it just thunders around drinking more than its fair share of gas.



One so vain as to drop a 'lade and run 24" chromies is probably an always right, self riteous, sky-high nosed snobby-*** mofo; I wouldn't knowingly go near any of these drivers.



Of course, I generalize. But I've yet to encounter anyone who drives such a car, who is cool, in any sense of the word.



I agree. There are always exceptions, but more often than not...
 
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