Wetsanding Video

nice job on the porsche. i get nervous thinking about wetsanding a car since i am still pretty new to detailing. but this is a very good tutorial and i will surely take notes. I just want to know, can i use my pc instead of the rotary to buff out the wet sanding scratches?
 
I wetsand on cars a lot. There are quite a few thngs that are just easier to fix with a wetsand step. I do like seeing different techniques that people use.



Thanks for the videos.:bounce
 
tsxmike said:
nice job on the porsche. i get nervous thinking about wetsanding a car since i am still pretty new to detailing. but this is a very good tutorial and i will surely take notes. I just want to know, can i use my pc instead of the rotary to buff out the wet sanding scratches?
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On 4k grit or higher perhaps a PC will work but on 3k grit and lower I don't think it'll do all that well.



Thanks for the compliments....Ron did all the work:goodjob



Anthony
 
Great work Anthony. Thanks for putting them together. I learn more and more with your tutorials.. :spot
 
Nice videos,:goodjob



What's with that water bucket? Couldn't you find one that's was a bit cleaner?:nixweiss



Other than that, nice of you to take the time and effort to post this.:bigups



Deanski
 
:D



Thanks Pat, sixty7 and Deanski





The bucket used by Ron is about as old as he is....fell off the truck and been ran over a few times also:grinno:



Anthony
 
Anthony Orosco said:
The bucket used by Ron is about as old as he is....fell off the truck and been ran over a few times also:grinno:



Anthony
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Man, you got that one right! Damn that was one nasty bucket.



For papers on softer paints such as Porsche, I've found that the Micro-Mesh which goes as fine as 12K is one great option! I did one black Porsche that was full of orange peel from factory which can happen. I'm a bit shocked that Section 7 didn't send it back for wetsanding before release to port. Wish I took shots of it before and after, but didn't have time. Great papers for very fine work.



BTW, have you tried the 3M "Ultrafina" yet? I'm scheduling with another shop with 3M reps to try it and see how it compairs to Menzerna and a few other polishes.



Regards,

Deanski
 
Thanks Ron and especially Anthony for your videos and your knowledge (put on video):wow:



It's one thing to read, but to actually see it helps out a lot.



Funny thing, I just bought some sanding paper and this has given me a lot better idea of what I want to try to accomplish. But I have some extra hoods to practice on before I try this for real.



Since I got your ear, on my personal car, my front spoiler which is white, has been ground in the front and has rubber grounded into it. I can not for the life of me been able to get it off. I have tried polish, clay, rubbing compoound, wd-40, tarminator, etc, etc and nothing budges it. I haven't put a rotary and pad on it, because I don't think it would work and I don't want to ruin a pad.



It doesn't really detract from the car, but I know it is there. I was thinking maybe using wet sanding paper, do you have any ideas. I am sure other cars out there drag and get rubber on the front spoiler, this car is not even low to the ground. (Even thinking of carb cleaner :angry but I :nono )



Thanks for any help and keep up the great videos. (why not produce a full video and sell it for a profit, I'm sure there is a market for your skills!!!!)



Doug
 
jdlierle said:
Thanks Ron and especially Anthony for your videos and your knowledge (put on video):wow:



It's one thing to read, but to actually see it helps out a lot.



Funny thing, I just bought some sanding paper and this has given me a lot better idea of what I want to try to accomplish. But I have some extra hoods to practice on before I try this for real.



Since I got your ear, on my personal car, my front spoiler which is white, has been ground in the front and has rubber grounded into it. I can not for the life of me been able to get it off. I have tried polish, clay, rubbing compoound, wd-40, tarminator, etc, etc and nothing budges it. I haven't put a rotary and pad on it, because I don't think it would work and I don't want to ruin a pad.



It doesn't really detract from the car, but I know it is there. I was thinking maybe using wet sanding paper, do you have any ideas. I am sure other cars out there drag and get rubber on the front spoiler, this car is not even low to the ground. (Even thinking of carb cleaner :angry but I :nono )



Thanks for any help and keep up the great videos. (why not produce a full video and sell it for a profit, I'm sure there is a market for your skills!!!!)



Doug
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Hey thanks to everyone for watching and the enthusiastic words :)



Doug, post up a picture or two of the damage and we can go from there.



Anthony
 
jdlierle said:
Since I got your ear, on my personal car, my front spoiler which is white, has been ground in the front and has rubber grounded into it. I can not for the life of me been able to get it off. I have tried polish, clay, rubbing compoound, wd-40, tarminator, etc, etc and nothing budges it. I haven't put a rotary and pad on it, because I don't think it would work and I don't want to ruin a pad.



It doesn't really detract from the car, but I know it is there. I was thinking maybe using wet sanding paper, do you have any ideas. I am sure other cars out there drag and get rubber on the front spoiler, this car is not even low to the ground. (Even thinking of carb cleaner :angry but I :nono )

Doug
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You are not going to get this off of a lower spoiler unless you sand it and repaint if you've ground it down by hitting the pavement.



I have the same problem (C2S with Aero) and found out that the lower lip (spoiler) is replaceable and that the GT3 one fits just fine. And these are a matte black so it looks fine anyway.



Now, for most spoilers that have all kinds of damage and debris on them and have tried everything from clay to 000 steel wool to remove rubber or other road debris find that the best way is to just have it sanded and painted. Next, once cured, I'd suggest clear paint film next time so you don't have to worry about it as much.



You've tried the most logical ways, now it's time to just have it re-shot.



Regards,

Deanski
 
Anthony Orosco said:
On 4k grit or higher perhaps a PC will work but on 3k grit and lower I don't think it'll do all that well.



Thanks for the compliments....Ron did all the work:goodjob



Anthony
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How about a rotary with yellow or orange pad (for 3k and higher)? I'm not too experienced with wool yet.
 
Hey just wanted to add my thanks as well. Like a whole lot of others on here I too am more of a visual learner, and in the past have made some mistakes with reading directions. Watching your videos has helped me to understand detailing on a more comfortable platform.
 
Thanks for the Vid Anthony!



Deanski said:
BTW, have you tried the 3M "Ultrafina" yet? I'm scheduling with another shop with 3M reps to try it and see how it compairs to Menzerna and a few other polishes.



Regards,

Deanski
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Stick with Menzerna 085RD or 106FF. Ultrafina is way more of a finishing polish and isn't as versatile as Menzerna. Somewhat pricey also, not bad attempt at the SRC market.
 
Bioman said:
How about a rotary with yellow or orange pad (for 3k and higher)? I'm not too experienced with wool yet.
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Don't be afraid of the wool pads..if you use a lambswool pad you'll be OK. Blended/twisted wool pads are the ones used for heavy correction and the ones perhaps most often misused or should I say, misapplied? What I mean by that is too many people use a blended wool pad to level out scratches that could have been finessed out with a lambswool or orange pad and thus reduced the amount of swirl correction.



On that Porsche bumper......well just about all painted bumpers, I would not use, personally, an yellow pad as the paint is difficult to correct. Porsche bumpers are notorious for being a PIA to correct to a flawless finish.



This is why Ron choose the combo of a lambswool pad and OP. The pad was aggressive but forgiving and the OP was just enough to level out the sanding marks yet not so abrasive to create deep swirls. The lambswool with Hyper would have been overkill and created for Ron a lot of clean up work. Trust me we have made that mistake many times so this is why we do these videos, to help others from making those mistakes.



I would use an orange pad before the yellow but with the orange pad you have the problem of surface contact. The lambswool and the green pad are so soft and flexible that they conform nicely to the bumper contours but the orange pad is a bit stiffer which means you're going to miss some areas.



By the way.....that Porsche was done on Saturday and it sold Monday morning:2thumbs:





Hope that helps,

Anthony
 
Thanks for the replies on the front spoiler problem Deanski,



Couple (or several) questions for Anthony about using a Rotary with pads, compounds, techinques?



1. How do you polish the area, between the top of car (pillars) 3" to 4" and the hoods, the narrow areas around the glass. Do you use 4" pads? Do you use a PC ? Do it by Hand? I know the rubber and metal areas are presumed to be taped off, just have never seen or heard anyone talk about these problem areas.



2. What specific mfg wool pads do you recommend? Is the Meguiars brand ok.? What is better?



3. I have Optium Polish (new formula), Optium Hyper Compund, Meguiars 84, Megs Dual Action, Megs Speed Glaze. I have the 3 Megs foam pads, I have all of Excel pads, (all are 6" pads Megs and Excel) but no wool pads at this time. What recommendations would you suggest in addition to this arsenal.



I am guessing Optium Polish with a Green Propel pad (similiar to Optiums green pad?) is a good starting in GENERAL terms? I know every car is different.



Thanks again for all the videos.



Doug
 
Great job guys on the vids! I think they will give a lot of people a better effect on what true finish correction is. I have been wetsanding for 15 years and it is the true way of making a flawless finish. I have noticed most factory paints these day have so much orange peel and on nice cars that people have the money, I will wetsand and finesse there car to an ultimate glossy shine. I think it's gonna be a big future niche for me and a lot of us.
 
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