Suggestion for what to do next?

gumhead

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I am new to polishing and have just tried my newly purchased PC.

I did a great deal of reading over a number of weeks before making my first attempt. I used an orange lake country pad and meguairs # 9 swirl remover with little results. This doesn't surprise me as I started with the least aggressive method first. I won't say it did'nt reduce my swirls marks but it is difficult to see the difference. I think I need a more aggresive soulution perhaps a bump up in cutting pads and a more aggressive polish. I would like to use meguairs products as they are more readily available to me in this area. I would appreciate any suggestions you may have. The car is a 2004 sonata.

Regards
 
To me, you are matching a glaze with a cutting pad. #9 hardly has any cutting power whatsoever.



If you want to apply a glaze, use a black finishing pad.



However, since you want to remove swirls, use an actual polish, such as Megs #105/205, or Ultimate compound/ScratchX 2.0/SwirlX etc.
 
If you're looking for something more aggressive OTC and in the Megs product line, it maybe Ultimate Compound is what you are looking for. This should be readily available at any of your FLAPS.



You may also find M105/M205 in some specialty paint/autobody shops, but prepare to pay through the nose.
 
FLAPS? You might also want to try #80 or #83 if the M105/205 is too expensive, as slickwilly said.



EDIT: oh...Friendly Local Auto Parts Stores
 
Setec Astronomy said:
FLAPS? You might also want to try #80 or #83 if the M105/205 is too expensive, as slickwilly said.



EDIT: oh...Friendly Local Auto Parts Stores



Agreed, forgot about the 80/83...which should actually be more readily available...I've seen them at O'Reilly and Napa.
 
IMO M205 is *so* versatile that it's really worth trying. It took a *long* time for me to try the M105/M205 twins and I have to say that they really *are* as impressive as everybody has been saying.



Worth seeking out IMO, better choice than #83/#80.
 
Accumulator-



What do you think about a M105/1ZPP combo compared to the M105/M205?



I have M105 and 1ZPP, but I don't have M205 (yet). ;~)



UPDATE: Found a previous post of yours, Accumulator. LINK Do you still feel that the 1ZPP is a good ready-to-wax product to follow some M105 work?
 
03F250 said:
Accumulator-



What do you think about a M105/1ZPP combo compared to the M105/M205?



I have M105 and 1ZPP, but I don't have M205 (yet)...



In most cases I'd expect the M205 to leave a much nicer finish than the 1Z PP. I was surprised how much I liked the M205 (just as I was with the M105).



UPDATE: Found a previous post of yours, Accumulator. LINK Do you still feel that the 1ZPP is a good ready-to-wax product to follow some M105 work?



1Z PP is still good, but in most cases I think the M205 is better. I do kinda think we're splitting hairs here, and if you wanted to use up the 1Z I can understand that and it oughta work fine. But I do think that once you try the M205 you'll be leaving the 1Z for areas like doorjambs.



Note that the 1Z leaves wax behind...not enough for real protection IMO but it's still a nice little something for the doorjambs/etc. But that also means you have to be careful what you apply over top of it, no such worries with the M205, which doesn't leave any such stuff behind (for better or worse).



Having used the M105/M205, I'm one more person who immediately decided they were my new go-to products.
 
I'm really glad to hear you're liking 105/205 combo, Accumulator. It really is good stuff. I'm still very surprised at how much cut you can get out of 205, and still have it finish down to 106ff levels on most paints. Even soft stuff, if you use the 205 with a DA. I must admit I'm still having fits getting 205 to finish out really well with a rotary on softer paints.
 
SuperBee364- I haven't used M205 *much* yet, and I'm curious about whether it'll finish out as nicely as 1Z HG when used via PC/Cyclo with finishing pads (for a light final burnishing).



You compared it to 106FF, and I'm thinking of how much better I got my 106FF'ed GMC when I did the final passes with 1Z HG :think:



Another unexpected benefit of the M205 was how well it worked on chrome. I did all the chrome on my pal's '60 Jag MKII with it and he and his wife were astounded by how great that worked. I wouldn't want to do that very often (such dramatic results make me a little nervous), but I figure that the M205 is meant for paint, and paint is softer than chrome...so, well, OK.
 
perhaps it would be better to try swirl X before stepping up to ultimate compound... only go as agressive as you have to.
 
Accumulator said:
SuperBee364- I haven't used M205 *much* yet, and I'm curious about whether it'll finish out as nicely as 1Z HG when used via PC/Cyclo with finishing pads (for a light final burnishing).



You compared it to 106FF, and I'm thinking of how much better I got my 106FF'ed GMC when I did the final passes with 1Z HG :think:



Another unexpected benefit of the M205 was how well it worked on chrome. I did all the chrome on my pal's '60 Jag MKII with it and he and his wife were astounded by how great that worked. I wouldn't want to do that very often (such dramatic results make me a little nervous), but I figure that the M205 is meant for paint, and paint is softer than chrome...so, well, OK.



The thing that amazes me about 205 is it's ability to work well on such a wide range of clear hardness/softness. I've only been able to get 1Z HG to finish out well on hard paints, on which it finishes down to a beautiful finish. On soft stuff, though, the HG leaves (at least in my ham-fisted experience) nasty compounding marks, even when used with a PC and finishing pad.



205, OTOH, is able to finish down beautifully on soft and hard clears, with my rotary caveat included.



I may have to revisit HG vs. 106ff again the next time I have a really hard clear coat to work on. It seems like they were fairly comparable finishes to me, but then again, I haven't done very many vehicles with HG. I still have over half a liter of the stuff left.



Glad to hear about the results on chrome. Can't wait to give that a go...
 
Sounds like I better pick up some 205. Thanks!



Since it's my first time working on this truck and it obviously didn't have a very caring previous owner, I'm fixing a lot of scratches this time around and 105 is getting used quite a bit. However, this fall I suppose I'll polish the whole truck with 205 before adding a winter's coat of 476s.
 
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