Removing light swirl marks from dark paint.....

Bill D said:
They definitely can: given poor technique, coarse and/or dirty washing materials, insufficiently lubricating and cleaning car wash, rushing, etc. Not to mention poor drying materials and method. Just look at car washed at some dealers' "scratch and swirl department: :bigscream Folks would be surpised just how easy it is to mar paint.
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"Marring" yes, halograms, no.

There is a difference and to remove them there is also a difference and this is why I tried to make the distinction. Bad carwashing, as you rightly wrote, can quickly destroy your car finish.
 
I think the word "swirling" is being used by one person to mean one thing and taken by another to mean something different. Holograms and swirling are not the same in my book either. Swirling can indeed be caused by poor washing & drying techniques, which was earlier stated as not possible by washing. Swirling (swirled scratches in the clear) and holograms are two different animals and shouldn't be used interchangeably. I do know that some poeple refer to hologramming as swirling and vice-versa, and it confuses me sometimes, but I think swirling in this sense was meant as the "marring" visible in the paint. Maybe I just confused myself. :)
 
I agree, many people use the word "swirl" to identify what are really halo-scratches, marring and/or spider webbing. If you go to a top professional detailer and tell them you have swirls in your paint they will most likely identify that with some hack detailer used a high speed rotary on your car. The picture below shows a hood with marring, spider webs or halo scratches

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This next picture shows a hood with a combination of swirls and marring. The flowing ribbon like halogram is what I identify as swirls, as do many pros. Sadly it (swirls) has become a generic word to mean just about any type of scratch in a persons paint.

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Well, I guess pictures really are worth 1000 words!!!

The second pic accurately shows what I saw on my wifes car (minus the hologram effect). Not swirls like in the first picture (round, almost dashed-lines), but rather I have more of the marring effect (straight lines that look like scratches, but probably arent too deep).

We always wash the car front to back, only moving the wash mitt side to side (not up and down, and not in circles), so that would explain the fairly straight marring lines that are hard to see head on. I havent been able to accurately assess how bad they are, because the wife got the car dirty again :) Ill have to wait until I can wash it again to see what I saw the first time. I have a feeling Im the only one that will be able to see the marks, but they still need to be fixed regardless.

Thanks!!!!
-Chris
 
joyriide1113 said:
im getting there. little by little
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joyriide1113,

Sorry, I missed your post. I would agree........... good advice, as was a lot of the advice in this thread! :bigups
 
The first photo shows defects that can be a result of poor washing technique, matierals and product
 
Hmm, so maybe I was just seeing things?

I guess Ill just have to wait for the weather to get better so I can wash the car and see whats up. Doesnt help that we had snow yesterday, who knows when Im going to be able to drive a clean car for more than a day before it gets a mess again.

-Chris
 
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