Realistically, who owns a *truly* swirl free car?

Who really owns a swirl free car?

  • I don't, but it's close.

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  • I do. I won't accept a swirl on my paint.

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • I used to, but winter has taken its toll.

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • I haven't even tried to rid my car of swirls yet.

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doostin said:
i want to see pictures of everyones car who said they were swirl free. I mean detailed pictures too, staring straight into the sun reflection and everything.
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I generally don't post pics over the 'net, and even if I did, I wouldn't be posting mine as silver cars had *better* look perfect. Since it takes extraordinary measures to see the stuff I polish out it would be pointless to try to post something proving its absence. I've tried taking pics of the sort of minor marring that bugs me and it's virtually impossible to capture on film, let alone post. Anything that *would* show up would be far worse than I'd ever put up with...



Heh heh, if you don't believe that any of us have marring free cars I guess I won't be able to convince you. But in my case, the folks at Stoddard Imports and the people in the Jaguar Club of Ohio would vouch for my cars' condition. I'm not lying about this stuff ;)
 
I did have swirl free etc paint before it went into the paint shop. Now I gotta wait 30 odd days for the paint to cure. Glaze for a while i guess lol!!
 
No need to take *my* word for it when it comes to keeping a vehcile marring free. Hey, believing everything you read on the internet is a game for cyberchumps anyhow. Instead, prove this stuff to yourself.



First, polish out all the marring. Then use a slick LSP. Never let the vehicle get very dirty. Wash it using My Wash Technique and a very high-lubricity shampoo. Dry by blotting (only) using very soft WWmfs.



Never touch the paint except when washing/drying and immediately thereafter. Keep the shop and your detailing supplies clean and replace your mitts/towels/applicators/etc. long before you think you oughta. Your vehicle will remain marring free. If you don't rub the paint with something that's *harder than the paint* (like dirt), you won't scratch it. If you don't scratch it, you won't have swirlmarks or other marring.



Simple concept, but it's not so simple (or at least *easy*) to apply it consistently. Note that I only keep two or three of our vehicles truly marring free and I sure don't plant to keep it up indefinitely on the minivan; it's just too much work.
 
Accumulator said:
No need to take *my* word for it when it comes to keeping a vehcile marring free. Hey, believing everything you read on the internet is a game for cyberchumps anyhow. Instead, prove this stuff to yourself.



First, polish out all the marring. Then use a slick LSP. Never let the vehicle get very dirty. Wash it using My Wash Technique and a very high-lubricity shampoo. Dry by blotting (only) using very soft WWmfs.



Never touch the paint except when washing/drying and immediately thereafter. Keep the shop and your detailing supplies clean and replace your mitts/towels/applicators/etc. long before you think you oughta. Your vehicle will remain marring free. If you don't rub the paint with something that's *harder than the paint* (like dirt), you won't scratch it. If you don't scratch it, you won't have swirlmarks or other marring.



Simple concept, but it's not so simple (or at least *easy*) to apply it consistently. Note that I only keep two or three of our vehicles truly marring free and I sure don't plant to keep it up indefinitely on the minivan; it's just too much work.
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Hey you forgot one important thing: sell your car and buy a silver metallic car. :D :D
 
Also, the elaborate defect-seeking inspection process using a variety of different lights at different angles
 
Bill D said:
Also, the elaborate defect-seeking inspection process using a variety of different lights at different angles
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Good point. I did that the last time I went nuts on my car. I took a hand held light down both sides, top to bottom, etc to see how the paint looked in the most unforgiving light-before I went on to AIO and Shokar.
 
tdekany said:
Hey you forgot one important thing: sell your car and buy a silver metallic car. :D :D
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Actually, clear is clear. I have to spend a lot more time looking for minor problems, but I do spot them. You have to have just the right lighting though.



When I did polish the S8 I probably spent at least an hour inspecting for every hour I spent polishing. And it took me many days to get it just right. I honestly believe it would've gone a lot faster had I been correcting a black car (which was the only color I owned for many years).



The nice thing about silver is that imperfect finishes still look OK to the *casual* observer. My wife's A8 isn't flawless by any means, but I usually have to point out the flaws in just the right lighting for anybody but us to notice them. But I'm not a "casual observer" and neither is my wife. I don't buy my "good cars" in silver because of its reputation for not showing flaws.
 
tdekany said:
Hey you forgot one important thing: sell your car and buy a silver metallic car. :D :D
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What's wrong with a detailer owning a silver metallic car??? :D It happens to be my favorite color...I own three of them.



As Accumulator said...clear is clear. I can spot defects on a silver car just as easy as I could on a black car. My eyes are trained for it.
 
now that I reread my post I see what you are saying.



I meant for the original poster to sell his car and buy a silver metalic car.



All my future cars will be silver. NO MORE DARK COLOR FOR ME.
 
tdekany said:




All my future cars will be silver. NO MORE DARK COLOR FOR ME.
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I hear ya. As much as I love how a freshly detailed black car looks, it doesn't stay that way for long. Every speck of dust, dirt, waterspot, etc shows. I just don't have the time to QD my car 3-4 times a day.
 
tdekany- Heh heh, I guess I've heard so much "you can't see anything on silver" BS that I take all such comments personally :p



But yeah, for *most* people, even most *Autopians*, the "forgiving" colors make a lot of sense. Life realy *is* short. And some vehicles just look *right* in those colors anyhow.



If I ever get a high-buck dog hauler, you can bet it's gonna be white ;) I'll drive the wheels off it and wash it in record time with a BHB and never worry about how it looks under the harsh lighting :D
 
Be sure to use your trouble light the most when scrutinizing white paint. I found halogens to not be very effective. However,they're great ( torturous) on black
 
Accumulator said:
I generally don't post pics over the 'net, and even if I did, I wouldn't be posting mine as silver cars had *better* look perfect. Since it takes extraordinary measures to see the stuff I polish out it would be pointless to try to post something proving its absence. I've tried taking pics of the sort of minor marring that bugs me and it's virtually impossible to capture on film, let alone post. Anything that *would* show up would be far worse than I'd ever put up with...



Heh heh, if you don't believe that any of us have marring free cars I guess I won't be able to convince you. But in my case, the folks at Stoddard Imports and the people in the Jaguar Club of Ohio would vouch for my cars' condition. I'm not lying about this stuff ;)
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woops, didn't mean to come of like i thought you guys were lying..haha, i honestly just want to see your cars. hah. i see how it would be taken though.
 
I try to keep my car in above average condition most of the time. I dont really care during the winter because its just too much to handle.
 
doostin- Cool, no offense taken! I wish I *could* capture the subtle difference between how our two Audis look; the complete lack of marring makes the S8 just look *different* from the A8. Heh heh, and seeing it parked beside my friend's "professionally detailed," identical S8 was a *real* :eek: but only my wife and I seemed to notice how much nicer my car looked. Sigh....most people really *don't* see the difference, let alone appreciate it...



Bill D- Heh heh, with white I just keep the trouble light turned off :D Not that any white vehicle of mine would approach the level of your Caddy :o
 
tdekany said:
now that I reread my post I see what you are saying.



I meant for the original poster to sell his car and buy a silver metalic car.



All my future cars will be silver. NO MORE DARK COLOR FOR ME.
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werd. I've FINALLY got the ideal situation for me. The two vehicles in my household are pewter (Envoy) and silver (Buick) :D



I'd only go with other colors if it were for a garage queen. And then it'd likely be an electron blue, yellow, red, or sunset orange metallic f-body or 'vette. :bow
 
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