RDF 49 and polycharger...

holland_patrick said:
AWD330 is one person you can trust....

BTW she has the beta version 1 of RDF 49

Come on marge let's see it..
Well, I don't have any pictures to show. I don't really know much about the development or marketing behind "Red Dot". Holland_Patrick was kind enough to share some of his supply with me. While I'm always up for testing a new product, I didn't want to rely on an untried product for winter protection on a daily driver here in New York state. However, I did have a garage queen that needed to be prepped for winter storage. I used SSR1 with a finishing pad and followed-up with Red Dot by hand. Red Dot had a pudding like texture (neither a paste nor a lotion). It spread easily. It was fairly easy to wipe off, though it's oily nature required a couple extra swipes of the towel to ensure full removal. On medium grey metallic paint, the end result was a look that is somewhat similar to UPP with an even slicker feel (hard to believe something can be slicker than UPP). It's too early for me to draw any conclusions about durability or appearance on different colors, but it certainly seems to have potential. Ask me again in a few months. :D
 
The industry itself uses the word "polish", and in the most contemporary context. I have a material from a raw material manufacturer/formulator company which states that the synthetic "polishes" were formerly called as paint sealants...

But whatever...

True, Zaino was just AMONG the first companies that marketed a catalyst. Yes, the Duragloss is another one, alongside RDF. Overseas, the Japanese Willson and G'Zox Detailing Pro lines use catalyzed, multi-step systems.
 
JaredPointer said:
Be carfeul what you take as the truth based on what you read and hear on these online detailing forums. Even the people who "know" what they're talking about sometimes don't know what they're talking about.

Amen to that:bow :bow :bow :bow :bow :hail

Pictures also are to be taken as a grain of salt :rolleyes:
 
yes what you see isn't always what you get..the picture looks good butthat is why i gave it to marge to check out she doesn't do pictures and she is honest...

Enough said..

patrick
 
polycharger seems to be an attempt to boost durability and aid in application by adding a high concentration of solvent to sealants-more than is legal in a premixed state. One very durable product has a roughly 8% voc content-I'm not sure how adding more VOC will improve it's formulation. Reading some threads also indicates some possible innacuracies in testing methodologies by some testers. I'm not sure that when it's all said and done 20 testers will provide definitive, repetiive affirmation that polycharger does ALL that it is claiming.
 
Mikeyc said:
I'm not a Zaino user, but I thought ZFX's function was to cause the Zaino sealants to cure faster for layering. Does it add durability to the sealant? My understanding from skimming some of the Polycharger threads is that it makes whatever sealant you add it to much more durable.

Anyway, a lot of the hype surrounding RDF49 and the Polycharger seems to revolve for the most part around durability. Personally, if there were a product out there that you could apply once to your car and it protected it forever I would never buy it. I could make a laundry list of reasons as to why extended durability is meaningless to me, but it all comes down to the fact that I really enjoy washing my car weekly and waxing it monthly. I find it fun & relaxing. Plus, I've yet to find a sealant that from my perspective can match the eye pleasing look of a good carnauba.

I prefer a sealant that instead of insane durability, adds more shine.
So many do not add any.
Although I do not wax my car due to it being metallic (wax hides the flakes), that ontop of a sealant is the ultimate

I know the guys at four star and they are focusing on R & D at the moment so you could be right
Regardless of forum popularity, all their ultimate and body shop products are superb and I use them when I detail professionally.
 
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