How does Klasse compair to NXT

gofastman

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I'm currently using NXT and I LOVE the "candy shell" look it gives, however, want to try something different for fun. How do the klasse twins compare to NXT in terms of looks?
 
Oh man - IMO, especially if you like that "candy shell" look, where you can "see the protection", get yourself a klasse twins combo with some AIO and some KSG. Aside form the fact that the durability of Klasse is, even with the new VOC formula, excelent, the acrylic resin in the polish will give a far better gloss and depth than the nxt. However application of NXT is a breeze in comparision, but if your down for a little elbow grease and have some good buffing MF's, give it a shot. I dont think you will be sorry.
 
id say klasse twins gives a plastic coated look, its tricky to get the hang of correct application, but easy once you master it



and its lasts for ages..where nxt doesnt
 
NXT ESP technology creates a tough polymer bond. Klasse creates a Acrylic bond that last longer. Which gives your car more shine is your call. They are two different animals. Both can be used and a wax layer can be applied over them. I like AIO X 2 curing 24 hrs between coats, then Pinnacle Souveran as a topper. Then you have the best of both worlds. A Acrylic then the ultimate wax JMO.....
 
My car is dark metallic blue.



I have used both products and have found the NXT gave the car a far more glossy and wet look whilst Klasee twins gave a more brilliant shine but lacked the warmth and depth. If you like the “glazed� look that NXT gives then you will need to top Klasse with a good carnauba wax [ I used Nattys Blue }



As others have said…….. Klasse will out last NXT,





Cheers



Perm
 
I've found them to be comparable in protection and durability. Neither last as long as claimed. I've also found they compliment each other when applied one over the other.



Acrylic = polymer btw. The rest is just marketing hype.
 
foxtrapper said:
I've found them to be comparable in protection and durability. Neither last as long as claimed.



Perhaps this is true if you are comparing one coat of NXT to one coat each of AIO/KSG. However, KSG is a sealant that really shines (pun intended) with mulitple layers. NXT - not so much.



3-4 layers of KSG will last as long as the most durable sealants out there. NXT does not have the same layering capability in terms of increased durability in my experience.
 
Is it possible to layer KSG on top of NXT? I have a tin of NXT that I'm going to be using but It would be nice if the protection that I apply in the next few weeks would last until spring. Is there any other products out there that would last that long on top of NXT?
 
Not sure about Klasse SG over NXT, but you can layer NXT over Klasse AIO which does look fantastic.



Perm
 
07GTI said:
Is it possible to layer KSG on top of NXT? I have a tin of NXT that I'm going to be using but It would be nice if the protection that I apply in the next few weeks would last until spring. Is there any other products out there that would last that long on top of NXT?

KSG is notoriously picky about what it will bond to. You might have problems getting the KSG to form a good bond on top of NXT.



Collinite 845 on top of NXT might give you the durability you are looking for.
 
Milestones said:
KSG is notoriously picky about what it will bond to. You might have problems getting the KSG to form a good bond on top of NXT.



Collinite 845 on top of NXT might give you the durability you are looking for.



That's the info I was looking for. Thanks guys. Where wold I get some Collinite 845 and what should I expect to pay?



Do I apply it in a similar fashion to the NXT? From what I've been reading it needs to be applied very thin.
 
Another difference betweent the two products that's yet to be mentioned in this thread:



NXT can hide some minor marring but the Klasse twins don't hide anything at all (at least not for me). The concealing ability of NXT isn't all *that* great, but it's better than some products.
 
foxtrapper said:
I've found them to be comparable in protection and durability. Neither last as long as claimed. I've also found they compliment each other when applied one over the other.

Acrylic = polymer btw. The rest is just marketing hype.

You are correct, but not all polymers are acrylic. Many are silicone based and I've seen articles that suggest that acrylic is more durable than silicone polymers.
 
MDRX8 said:
NXT ESP technology creates a tough polymer bond. Klasse creates a Acrylic bond that last longer. Which gives your car more shine is your call. They are two different animals. Both can be used and a wax layer can be applied over them. I like AIO X 2 curing 24 hrs between coats, then Pinnacle Souveran as a topper. Then you have the best of both worlds. A Acrylic then the ultimate wax JMO.....

I don't think AIO x2 makes sense does it?

AIO has chemical cleaners, so the second application would strip the sealant in the 1st application.



It would seem best to use AIO, then follow with KSG (perhaps x2+), then optionally top with ahigh quality carnuba.
 
Accumulator said:
Another difference betweent the two products that's yet to be mentioned in this thread:



NXT can hide some minor marring but the Klasse twins don't hide anything at all (at least not for me). The concealing ability of NXT isn't all *that* great, but it's better than some products.

I agree with you, but in my experiance, the hiding NXT did was very short lived and the eyesores returned in about 3 weeks. I also noticed that NXT initially beads well, but that is also pretty short lived (and between us, I'm a little unsure of the sheeting vs. beading claims).
 
NXT is meant to sheet water not bead. All of Meguiar's line (with the exception of one wax in the consumer line) is formulated to sheet water instead of bead. Beading is not a good indicator of whether or not a wax/sealant is still present.
 
Accumulator said:
Another difference betweent the two products that's yet to be mentioned in this thread:



NXT can hide some minor marring but the Klasse twins don't hide anything at all (at least not for me). The concealing ability of NXT isn't all *that* great, but it's better than some products.



Which is why I still have (and use) NXT a lot especially on darker colors. FWIW, NXT is great on white as well.



I personally prefer the Werkstatt lineup to the Klasse lineup, especially with Prime Strong and AJT. Updated forumlas of Klasse that clean better and look better, IMO.
 
I'm new to this, but it seems to me that if your going to use the Klasse twins and anything else it would seem best to do AIO --> KSG (as many coats as you want) --> then NXT, carnauba, whatever gets your jollies off.



On a side note, nobody has mentioned any of CG sealants. I just bought some SG and some CG Extreme Top Coat sealant (some amino based whatever) but the CG seems to hold up very well, bonds to AIO great, easy on and off application. You might think about giving that stuff a try, I think it's comparable to NXT, but i could be wrong?
 
SDLexus said:
NXT is meant to sheet water not bead. All of Meguiar's line (with the exception of one wax in the consumer line) is formulated to sheet water instead of bead. Beading is not a good indicator of whether or not a wax/sealant is still present.





I've found with most products that after the beading fades dirt tends to stick more. BTW if you like the darkening effect of NXT then Z5pro would probably be more similar to NXT than Klasse.
 
SDLexus said:
NXT is meant to sheet water not bead. All of Meguiar's line (with the exception of one wax in the consumer line) is formulated to sheet water instead of bead. Beading is not a good indicator of whether or not a wax/sealant is still present.

Oh NXT beads really well...for 3-4 weeks I think, then it seems to stop beading!? So if the 'sheet vs. bead story' is true, why does it bead at all. If it beads, why does it stop so soon? When it stops beading, the car seems to get dirtier quicker as more stuff seems to stick. The stuff that sticks is a bit more stubborn to wash off.



So if it's designed to 'sheet' and not 'bead', one has to ask why does it bead for weeks?



If a car has an LSP designed to sheet so it looks no different than an unprotected finish, what indicators are used to determine the need to renew the LSP.
 
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