Honda's don't need to be waxed!

Hi AndyC_1. I had an MR2 (silver) that had been 'Supaguarded'. It came with a couple of little pots; a wash solution (not bad) and a thick yellow 'sealant'. AFAIK the garage applied a 'industrial' version of the sealant and the stuff the 'consumer' gets is a top-up.



It certainly kept the paint smoother than it would have been if nothing had been applied, but after 6 months I was using regular polishes and waxes on the car - and much preferring the look. If you don't want to look after your car (other than a wash once a month), it's probably a good idea. But for anyone whop wants their car looking its best, and is happy to spend a bit of time, I wouldn't bother.



To my eyes the treatment adds a milky sheen to the paint - it muddies the reflections and adds a very slightly creamy/yellow coloured tinge. Maybe the colour is only visible on the very light silver, but once I started using 'proper' stuff (mostly megs at the time), the car looked alot better. I would imagine that on a dark colour the lack of crispness to the reflections would be the most noticeable difference. After 6 months of washing and adding a little sealant-type stuff alot of road-muck and mini tar dots were crying out for a claybar and I could bear it no longer!
 
Most cars already come with a lifetime sealent, it's call the clear coat that has UV inhibitors and is pretty thick and supposed to last the lifetime of the car. What makes any product you apply over that from a bottle make it better, last longer, less subject to scratches, swirls, oxidation that the clear coat? Wax or sealent, call it what you want is not something you want to last forever because as it oxidizes, swirls and gets imbedded contaminants you want it to slowly dissolve so you can put a fresh coat to protect and keep the car shiny, if not the sealent coat would start looking pretty bad as what's going to protect that?



So hence, it's all a scam meant to trick customers into pay 600-800 for a substandard wax job. The only time I went for it was on my kid's new truck because I talked them down to $200 and it included 6 detail jobs spaced 6-8 months apart and figured my kid wasn't going to detail her truck so it was worth it to know the truck was being cared for. They actually did a good job detailing and she didn't disapoint me and did a good job of keeping it as messed up and dirty as possible.
 
I have a coworker in my office who just bought a new Subaru Tribeca. He got the sealant but only because they gave it to him for free. I assured him that no dealership gives ANYTHING away for free, but he got it anyway. He noted the solvent smell in his garage the next day.



What exactly is the 'sealant' they sell? Is it an acrylic like Klasse, only thicker? Will standard paint cleaners (MPPC, AIO) take it off? How about waxes with cleaning abilities like NXT? Are there any real good features of these sealants?
 
Having had a car with it applied, I'd say it's fine for the average person who only wants to wash their car once a month and not have to do anything else. Like I said earlier, I wouldn't bother with them.
 
haha i had a friend of mines mom ask me about "perma plate" i guess the dealer wanted to do it next time she brought the car in for service. well another friend of mine had recently done a full klasse aio and sg job on her car, so we said NO WAY. then went on to tell her how the dealer would try and present it. "you know we have this superior paint protection, perma plate, bla bla never have to wax again, bla bla, we can give it to you for this great price of only $150... oh you dont want it,...ok hmm well i talked with my manager and he said we can go as low as 99.



lmao. dealer bastids suck.
 
from my understanding is the "protection plan" offered by acura/honda dealers, you go back each year to get it reapplied. or at least that was what a friend who recently purchased a honda told me. didn't have the heart to tell them they got ripped.
 
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