bought and used PC 7336 today for the first time. got ?'s

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xinkid

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Hello, I went on an impulse and bought a PC 7336 from Lowe's today to use on the 1991 Toyota MR2 that I'm selling. I thought the 100 or so investment will more than pay itself back in just getting the car more attractive to buyers. :)



anyway, I didn't have any pads so I used the wax/polishing foam pad that came with the 7336 for applying MPPC. The PC was easier to use than I expected. :) I felt like it did remove oxidation and the paint's color came back some, however, it did not remove hazing from the hood. I started on 1 just to be safe and gradually increased the speed up to 4 because I remember reading someone using speed 4 with AIO in another thread.



I'm trying to figure out what I'm doing wrong that's preventing me from getting the haze out. When I went up to speed 4, I just moved the PC back and forth overlapping half of the previous path and continued a little past the dust starting to appear. I went over everything with one application. Do you think it's because I'm using the pad that came with the PC?



The other question I have is that do I have to apply more MPPC per 2' by 2' area? I notice when I was doing my mirrors that I didn't have to apply any product and just used what's on the pad already to polish the mirrors.
 
Someone correct me if i'm wrong since i'm a PC newb myself, but AIO doesn't contain any abrasives. I think you'll need a set of pads and a mild abrasive polish to clear up that hazing.
 
The pad that comes with the PC is not the quality (or quantity) needed for the job at hand. Some folks throw them away. Invest in some quality pads, at least three, of varying textures and you'll have results.
 
Figured I'd chime in and see if I can offer some words of advice. I second what and earlier response said. Get a new backing plate and some new pads. (Sonus,Meg's,Excel all have great products) I recommend you pick up at least one or two of the "polishing pads" and at least one of the finishing pads from whichever vendor you go with.



In looking at your posting you said that the vehicle is from 1991. My guess would be that such old paint will probably require you to step up a bit from the cleaning ability of AIO and go with a slightly stronger polish such as #80 or #83 from Meg's or one of the Sonus SFX polishes. I would recommend that you start with the #80, make one of two slow passes with it and then check your work. If you are happy with the results, follow up with a LSP or pure polish. If you still have swirls, then maybe try something slightly more agressive on the scale.



AIO, from what I have heard is an awesome product and is a staple in most all detailers supply cabinets (Although I have yet to try it believe it or not) The limitation to it is that on old or neglected paint, it does have it's limits.



Remember as well that the PC is an awesome tool for your arsenal, but just be aware of it's limitations. On some really neglected paint you may not be able to achieve "perfection" but you can improve appearance %100.



Lastly, so far as the white pad that comes with the PC.... I found that a great use for it is to do the windshield. I use it to work in the Autoglym or Sonus glass polishes.



Hopefully some of this is of assistance to you. :wavey
 
Besides using quality pads, bump the speed up to 5 or 6 (some people use 6 exclusively). I never found 4 to be helpful except for spreading product around.



..and use something that's more abrasive. AIO has one micron abrasives, but this isn't nearly enough to properly address swirls/micromarring. It's meant more as a cleaner than a swirl remover. If you specifically want a cleaner that has more cut to it, consider Prime Strong. Otherwise, you'd probably do well to get a dedicated polish.
 
yeah five o you basically hit it on its head, i like aio but almost look at is as a qd in terms of work overhaul, ive done just wash wax jobs on fairly decent paint that i use aio on and there is a huge degree of what its not capable of, in fact i feel the cleaning aspect of the product is almost null n void IMO because what you see it leaves behind is exactly what i want removed, i like its use becuase of sg bondage and i like it on glass....CLEAN GLASS that is of course, but as far as saying aio is my polishing step is expecting a bit much from a product thats basically a suped up cleaner wax. use a real polish/leveler/compound to beutify the paint imo aio is the middle man. once again...imo
 
wow, thanks for all the responses. YOu guys are really helpful! :)



One thing I want to clear up is that I used MPPC, not AIO. I mentioned someone else used speed 4 with AIO and that's why I used speed 4. ;) Do you think MPPC has enough cut to remove hazing?



I have #80 but I want to avoid using it because I plan to top with Trigger which do not like oils in #80 I believe. I'm going to try to add some pads to my order from Autogeek, if they haven't shipped it. I'm not sure if they sell Sonus products. What non-oily polish from autgeek do you think I should get if MPPC won't cut it?



thanks.
 
No one? well, I got more fresh questions.

I'm thinking about getting some Edge pads mainly because the adapter comes with life time warranty and they seem to be easier to use than the hook and loop. I don't really want to get their kit, which has too many things I don't care about like pad cleaner solution and pad conditioner. Do you guys ever use those thing?



The paint that I'm trying to bring back to life has pretty soft (91 toyota), that has been neglected. Has oxidation, hazing and lots of buffer marring and scratches. What do you think would be the minimum I can get away with for applying MPPC and possible stronger polish. I will wax and remove product by hand or is a MF bonnet really good at removing stuff? Here's a link to the edge pads: http://www.autogeek.net/edge20006.html



EDIT: do you think Orange and Blue is enough for my purposes of polishing?
 
Well let me add another 2 cents...guess that makes it a total of four cents now...but I digress...anyhow. I think you'd be plenty happy with the edge pads, I have never used them but have seen plenty of postings talking about the quality of them. I am the type of person though that likes simplicity. I find the hook and loop pads plenty easy to use and care for and the nice thing is, one backing plate from one manufacturer fits most every manufacturers pad. If you go with the edge system, you are limited to using their pads. Then again, if they work for you, then that is no loss anyhow. So I would venture to say that it is a personal decision.



So far as another polish other than meg's #80 goes, I saw that autogeek carries the Poorboys pro polish with and without carnauba. Not sure of the abrasiveness/swirl reduction capabilites of it, but if you run a search of postings both here and on the other car car sites, I am sure you'll find answers to your questions.



If you are like most of us, before long you'll have prob 15 diff types of product in your garage and then you'll be posting your "expert" advice!! Good luck and have fun.
 
I got some edge pads, adapter and SSR2.5 and SSR1 from autogeek. I'll keep you posted on my progress and even more questions once they arrive. :D I'm super busy right now with work though because I have to finish all the stuff before leaving for vacation. The polishing might have to wait until end of the month. :(
 
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