Best Hand Application Polish?

I've had good luck with the filling capabilites of #7/NXT. I hid even some moderate scratches from driving too close to a branch.
 
zimmerDN said:
I am in a similar situation and I already got all my other stuff except for a cleaner/polisher. I was told to get #80 or 1Z PP. Now you guys make it sound like it's crazy to do the entire car by hand with #80.



I don't think it's crazy to hand polish your car; if you're willing to put some effort into it. I don't remember how easy it was to remove swirls or light scratches with#80, but 1ZPP works beautifully for me - it stays wet for a long time and you can take your time(but you should do it with a cotton terry pad, NOT a foam pad).



I have a polisher; sometimes I use it, sometimes I don't. If you basically only plan to polish your own car occasionally and you prefer to save some money, then do it by hand - and it gives you a great workout, too!
 
percynjpn said:
I don't think it's crazy to hand polish your car; if you're willing to put some effort into it. I don't remember how easy it was to remove swirls or light scratches with#80, but 1ZPP works beautifully for me - it stays wet for a long time and you can take your time(but you should do it with a cotton terry pad, NOT a foam pad).



I have a polisher; sometimes I use it, sometimes I don't. If you basically only plan to polish your own car occasionally and you prefer to save some money, then do it by hand - and it gives you a great workout, too!





Thanks for not just telling me to go buy a PC. But again with the acronyms, what does 1ZPP stand for? I really only need a polish for taking out light swirls, light oxidation.
 
WickedLTZ said:
Thanks for not just telling me to go buy a PC. But again with the acronyms, what does 1ZPP stand for? I really only need a polish for taking out light swirls, light oxidation.





Sorry; 1Z PP stands for "Einszett Paint Polish"; it's a great general purpose polish that's so easy to use, by hand or polisher - it's my favorite. It removes small scratches, swirls, water spots, etc. Unless your paint is black or non-metallic red, dark green or dark blue, you won't need their final polish, "Einszett Metallic PolishWax" (but it's still recommended if you want just a bit more "bling"). Both polishes also contain Carnauba wax, so they can be used as a final step (but neither last very long as a wax).



Polishers are great, but I think that it's become a kind of unwritten law that, to be a 'true detailer', you have to use a polisher, and so everyone jumps on the bandwagon. You may be able to produce an overall better result by machine, but in my experience (with the right effort) hand polishing works just fine. Also, after you buy a PC (or other), you'll also have to shell out at least $40 (probably more) for the pads.



I'm sure others will disagree, but I've been polishing cars by hand for years (and using a polisher for about 3); if you put the right elbow grease and time into it, you can get the same results by hand.
 
percynjpn said:
I'm sure others will disagree, but I've been polishing cars by hand for years (and using a polisher for about 3); if you put the right elbow grease and time into it, you can get the same results by hand.

I think Scottwax proved this at that Meg's event last year.
 
I bet it *is* frustrating when somebody asks "how do I do this?" and the answer is to go buy a machine/spend more money.



percynjpn said:
..I'm sure others will disagree, but I've been polishing cars by hand for years (and using a polisher for about 3); if you put the right elbow grease and time into it, you can get the same results by hand.



Well, I wouldn't go quite *that* far, at least not if you have really hard clear, because some jobs simply require a rotary- something you just can't duplicate by hand. But yeah, if you put in the time and effort (perhaps a big "if" ;) ) you should be able to do most anything by hand that you can do by PC and maybe even a Cyclo.



ScottWax really is a great example, as, for years, he did work by hand that rivaled what anybody could do with a PC. And he did it quickly/efficiently enough to make his living that way. IIRC, Mirrorfinishman has also managed to be a successful professional detailer doing it all by hand.



A PC is just a very fast mechanical hand that doesn't get tired or lazy.
 
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