Your favorite "prepsol" alternative?

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sremick

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Yes, I know it's been asked a 100 times. Trust me, I've been searching and reading...



But I don't come away with a clear idea. Everyone preaches "prepsol prepsol prepsol"... as if you can actually buy the stuff. I've searched all over, both shops and online. It doesn't appear anywhere. I'm talking about the real thing, from Dupont.



So then there's the whole denatured alcohol thing as an alternative, usually people say mix 50/50 with water.



So am I to assume that everyone is either using prepsol they've obtained from some guy named Vinnie who works as an after-hours janitor in the secret back-rooms of Dupont, or uses a 50/50 mix of denatured alcohol and water?



If you use something other than real Dupont Prep-Sol or denatured alcohol, what do you use? Don't be vague... I've see lots of mentioning of other products that I also couldn't actually track down anywhere, either from resellers or even the manufacturer's site (one that comes to mind is Kleanstrip Prep-All, which doesn't seem to actually exist). Chances are I'll be ordering online, so if you know of a real place you can actually purchase the stuff from, a link would be useful.



Sorry if my tone sounds demanding :( I'm just getting really frustrated when a product is mentioned so much as The Thing To Use yet you can't actually find it anywhere. I'd rather not just randomly accept whatever product some local guy hands me if I ask for a wax-stripping solvent... I trust your guys' opinion far more and would rather use something someone here endorses.



Thanks!
 
I find Kleen Strip Prep-All all over the place: Wal-Mart and all auto parts stores. I've seen that 3m product before in my catalog and I bet a good paint and body supply store that has a nice 3m selection will have it.



I think I'd like to move on because even though the content is small, 1.5%, it does contain toluene. I'd prefer something totally toluene and xylene free.



There is a link to the MSDS fro Prepsol somewhere here. I believe it showed Prepsol is a "cocktail" of different solvents but no toluene or Xylene.



If you are having a hard time finding a Prepsol alternative and don't wish to use Prep-All. I think New Car Prep from Autoint.com is a very attractive alternative.



Good work searching and "doing your homework" BTW ;) :up
 
These days I use Wurth Clean-Solve (art. no. 8909382-U) but I can't remember where I ordered it. When I need more I'll get it through my mechanic, who uses a lot of Wurth stuff. Sorry, guess that's not of much help :o



When I don't use that, I use 3M General Purpose Adhesive Remover (pn. 051135 08984).



You could get Griot's Paint Prep (pn 11135), but it's pretty expensive for a product of this type. Griot's also sells the 3M stuff I mentioned above ( LINK , phone is 800 345-5789).



I'm surprised you can't find Prep-Sol locally. That (or its competitor Pre-Kleano) should be available from any shop that sells autopaint/body supply stuff. There's another product called something like "Akryl-Clean" too. All these are basically the same stuff and shops that supply bodyshops have them. Check the yellow pages and you should be able to find a place near you.
 
Bill D said:
I find Kleen Strip Prep-All all over the place: Wal-Mart and all auto parts stores.
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Hmm, ok any idea why I can't find it? Heck, I can't even find it on Kleanstrip's website. What should I be searching for (web)?



Bill D said:
I think I'd like to move on because even though the content is small, 1.5%, it does contain toluene. I'd prefer something totally toluene and xylene free.
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How come? What's wrong with toluene and xylene?



Bill D said:
If you are having a hard time finding a Prepsol alternative and don't wish to use Prep-All. I think New Car Prep from Autoint.com is a very attractive alternative.
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This stuff?

http://www.autoint.com/autostore/pc/viewPrd.asp?idcategory=22&idproduct=185
 
Yes, that is the Autoint product.



FWIW, I got the sense from Autoint when I contacted them that toluene in small concentration is ok, just not the cutting edge, and consequently more expensive solvent mixtures available. From a health stand point any one of these products we are discussing need to be used a very well ventilated area.



Accumulator,



Yeah, I have my 3m General Purpose Adhesive remover sitting on the shelf not doing much. I think I might re start using it again, this time for LSP removal. That is often available in the smaller chain auto part stores.
 
Ah ha! the second link must be a new VOC compliant version. Haven't seen it locally yet. Nor have I ever seen a gallon of it locally. I wonder what the new formula entails. I have never seenthe packaging in the last link.
 
Bumping up a 10 yr old thread.

Guys, what is a modern day equivalent that works well? I`ve got an old can of the Kleen Strip Prep All but always felt that product left some kind of residue behind. Anyone suggest a product they like?

Thanks.
 
Ah, perfect timing! I was just using my new fave this morning- Pre from Eastwood. Haven`t noticed any residue, certainly nothing that messed up my paints/primers, and it cleaned off some awfully tenacious lube just like magic.

Eastwood PRE Painting Prep
 
Pittsburg Paint and Glass (PPG) Acryli-Clean DX330 Wax and Grease Remover.
Too bad this stuff is NOT available anymore, as mine came from an auto parts /body shop supply store in about 1985 before VOC-compliance laws were in effect.

One thing I would mention is going to garage or estate sales you may find all kinds of no-longer available car-care chemicals , insecticides, herbicides, and cleaners that have been stored/squirreled/hoarded away that have not been used for some time. Just be careful what you buy and how you intend to use it. If the container looks like its leaking or really rusty, leave it alone. Hazardous Material/Environmental clean-up can be very expensive to the "new owner". (You bought it-you own it responsibility)
 
Civicclutch said:
what is this stuff for
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This product was used to remove any trace of grease, oil, oils from hands, etc., off of panels so that the next stage of spraying would have the best opportunity to adhere to the panel...

I used Dupont Y3919S Prep-Sol to wipe down panels before and after sanding, before priming, after wet block sanding the primered areas with a guidecoat, and again right before painting, followed with a light Tack Rag final wipe off in the Booth...

After Dupont Y3919S went away, there was Dupont 3900S First Kleen, a similar product but cleaned up for new EPA regs..

You should be able to find something similar at an Auto Body and Paint Supply Shop... Places like Sherwin-Williams have Auto Body and Paint Supply Shops..

Somewhere along the line over 10+ years ago, some people started using Isopropyl Alcohol straight or cut with water to do the final clean up before any LSP, Sealant, Coating, etc., was applied to finish polished paintwork..

I personally never liked isopropyl alcohol because it caused some paintwork to slightly soften.. It was also not friendly with some rubber and vinyl trim, etc.,..

I get it that the idea was to get the paintwork as clean as possible before applying your final LSP and all, but I never liked the idea of using something that no Paint Shop I ever worked in would ever consider using in the first place to clean up paint...

Not really sure there is a need to use these chemicals in the Detailing World today with the advent of things like Einszett Top Inspection, Car Pro Eraser, etc...

I have used both Top Inspection and Eraser for final wipe down before Coating paintwork and never had an issue with the coating being able to completely adhere to the finish..

Just make sure to keep hands off anything that you are going to wax, seal, coat, etc., and it will be fine..
Dan F
 
Stokdgs said:
This product was used to remove any trace of grease, oil, oils from hands, etc., off of panels so that the next stage of spraying would have the best opportunity to adhere to the panel...

I used Dupont Y3919S Prep-Sol to wipe down panels before and after sanding, before priming, after wet block sanding the primered areas with a guidecoat, and again right before painting, followed with a light Tack Rag final wipe off in the Booth...

After Dupont Y3919S went away, there was Dupont 3900S First Kleen, a similar product but cleaned up for new EPA regs..

You should be able to find something similar at an Auto Body and Paint Supply Shop... Places like Sherwin-Williams have Auto Body and Paint Supply Shops..

Somewhere along the line over 10+ years ago, some people started using Isopropyl Alcohol straight or cut with water to do the final clean up before any LSP, Sealant, Coating, etc., was applied to finish polished paintwork..

I personally never liked isopropyl alcohol because it caused some paintwork to slightly soften.. It was also not friendly with some rubber and vinyl trim, etc.,..

I get it that the idea was to get the paintwork as clean as possible before applying your final LSP and all, but I never liked the idea of using something that no Paint Shop I ever worked in would ever consider using in the first place to clean up paint...

Not really sure there is a need to use these chemicals in the Detailing World today with the advent of things like Einszett Top Inspection, Car Pro Eraser, etc...

I have used both Top Inspection and Eraser for final wipe down before Coating paintwork and never had an issue with the coating being able to completely adhere to the finish..

Just make sure to keep hands off anything that you are going to wax, seal, coat, etc., and it will be fine..
Dan F
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Ok thanks. I thought that`s what it was for but wasn`t for sure


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Thanks, guys! Yeah, I`m using this mostly for little spray paint projects I do with my son. I find the product I have (Prep All) softens paints and it`s starting to drive me a bit crazy. I also had an old gallon of a BASF product that never caused this issue...but that stuff is gone and was very old. I`d like to find an alternate; I`m not using much and prefer not to buy a gallon.
 
tom p. said:
Thanks, guys! Yeah, I`m using this mostly for little spray paint projects I do with my son. I find the product I have (Prep All) softens paints and it`s starting to drive me a bit crazy. I also had an old gallon of a BASF product that never caused this issue...but that stuff is gone and was very old. I`d like to find an alternate;

Tom P -
What type of paint are you spraying ?
If its a rattle can then it will always be very fragile until its dry and cured...
Dan F
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