Windshield washer fluid that is paint/LSP friendly?

David Fermani

Forza Auto Salon
What's the best windshield washer fluid that is paint/LSP friendly? Don't really care about the temp element(Florida), just don't want it to stain and or strip anything. Anyone ever try ONR?
 
I use ONR. Im just not a huge fan of it for windows. It does a good job cleaning but seems to leave some odd residue/spots. After this tank is empty, the normal stuff is going back in.
 
David Fermani- Are you having an actual *problem* with a given fluid? I know it *can* cause problems...my (very preowned) '93 Audi is all messed up by its nozzles...but it's never happened on any vehicle that I've maintained. Now, I don't use my washers unless I need to, but even after winters where we use a *LOT* of fluid I don't even have signs of LSP failure, and I just use cheapo fluid :nixweiss
 
i allways wondered if the washer fluid is bad for the paint.

i allmost never use my washers on any of my cars
 
shaunls1 said:
i almost never use my washers on any of my cars





I never use my washer fluid either......dont want it all over the car. I also have those stupid headlight washer jets that supposedly put fluid all over the hood...



Here's my concern.....



The car is 7 months old, and Ive never used the fluid yet. Can it reduce, and "crust up" or crystalize, causing the lines or pump to clog or fail?



In this situation, should you pump out old fluid from the reservoir annually perhaps?



Maybe incorporate using some fluid into your wash routine?
 
I've got cheapo windshield washer fluid in my tanks as well. Never had a problem with LSP or damage in general. The stuff works wonders when you have a bit of ice build-up on your windshield/wiper blades or the sudden bird bomb.



Depending on the windshield washer fluid, it can begin to crystallize. I don't think it to be that big of a deal though seeing as now days, almost all windshield fluid has some sort of anti-crystallization formula.



Is there a need to pump out old fluid annually? I don't see the benefit.



Most of the time when your washers stop to work, it's because the nozzles are clogged or the fluid is frozen.
 
I use rainx washer additive, i don't notice anything bad about where it lands on the paint, it leaves a spot but it will wipe off easily. even distilled water will leave a spot as any dust in the air will collect as it drys.
 
David Fermani said:
What's the best windshield washer fluid that is paint/LSP friendly? Don't really care about the temp element(Florida), just don't want it to stain and or strip anything. Anyone ever try ONR?



Sounds like someone is gearing up for lovebug season. Or at least is feeling the effects of pollen season already ;)



The bugs really have gotten bad over the past few weeks, and my car is nearly instantly covered with neon green/yellow pollen. It's terrible. Summer can't come fast enough with its daily storms.
 
Accumulator said:
David Fermani- Are you having an actual *problem* with a given fluid? I know it *can* cause problems...my (very preowned) '93 Audi is all messed up by its nozzles...but it's never happened on any vehicle that I've maintained. Now, I don't use my washers unless I need to, but even after winters where we use a *LOT* of fluid I don't even have signs of LSP failure, and I just use cheapo fluid :nixweiss



Not really, but I have a client that just had the front end of his black M5 repainted and he's concerned with the potential for problems. He mentioned that there was a heavy buildup/deposits of washer fluid residue embedded "into" his paint prior. There's a good 6 inches of painted hood behind the squirters that fluid splashes down on. Just trying to avoid it from happening again, especially when the paint is fresh.



XRL said:
Sounds like someone is gearing up for lovebug season. Or at least is feeling the effects of pollen season already ;)



The bugs really have gotten bad over the past few weeks, and my car is nearly instantly covered with neon green/yellow pollen. It's terrible. Summer can't come fast enough with its daily storms.



Not looking forward to those love bugs one bit!! Haven't noticed LB yet, but the front end of my car is blasted with other creatures.
 
David Fermani said:
Not really, but I have a client that just had the front end of his black M5 repainted and he's concerned with the potential for problems. He mentioned that there was a heavy buildup/deposits of washer fluid residue embedded "into" his paint prior. There's a good 6 inches of painted hood behind the squirters that fluid splashes down on. Just trying to avoid it from happening again, especially when the paint is fresh..



OK, roger that, thanks for explaining. In *that* case I'd simply not use 'em until the paint has cured and you've thorougly LSPed it (there we go onto *that* topic again ;) ). And if he's gonna use the washers much (yeah, other than winter I simply never do) then you might oughta consider that when choosing his LSP.



But I bet any decent glaze would provide enough protection...but, uhm...I guess it's a matter of "well, what would I *really* want to bet on that?" Probably not his nice new paintjob!




AntonV said:
The car is 7 months old, and Ive never used the fluid yet. Can it reduce, and "crust up" or crystalize, causing the lines or pump to clog or fail?



I guess the safe answer is "sure, it can go bad.." and I bet some fluids are worse than others in this regard. But in reality, the worst I've had happen is a very minor clogging at the nozzles themselves, easy enough to clear with a piece of thin wire. Even that hardly ever happens, usually just on vehicles whose washers I haven't used for (literally) years.



I've had *two* pump failures in my life (and that's out of dozens and dozens of cars over quite a few decades). The last failure was the primary pump (the one that gets used the most) on my '93 Audi; its "intensive" system's pump has hardly *ever* been used since new (the original owner said she'd never used it)and it still works fine.
 
I use ONR at wash dilution w/Distilled water and a couple ounces of DG rain repel in summer. Works just as good as the Orange RainX solution I use the rest of the year.



The ONR will leave a faint white residue, the same residue when ONR dries on your paint when you're washing.
 
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