Teflon paint coating from dealer?

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stangster06

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Hello everyone,

This is my first post. Just got a new black 2006 GT Premium. I know about all the challenges with black paint - I had to take it back to be clayed the next day - looks great now though.

The dealer told me about a teflon treatment they can apply to the car for $499 with a 5 yr guarantee. I had never heard about this before but have done some research on the net and found some info - some good - some bad.

Does anyone have any experience or advice? Is it worth it? Any drawbacks/problems? Can you wax/polish it?

Thanks for any help!
 
My advice would be to save yourself $499. No paint protection product will last 5 years. There's paint out there that hasn't lasted 5 years. You could spend half the money they want to apply some wax and buy the products yourself; then spend some time reading up on proper detailing procedures, and have much better and longer lasting results than the "stealership" will give you. If you search a little on the forums, you will see that this question gets asked quite a bit, and is almost always answered in the same regard - skip it! :)
 
I've heard some arguments for a Teflon coating that will last 1 year, but even then I doubt it.
You have to ask: what is it guaranteeing? No fading? Shiny after every wash? Scratch resistant? UV protection? No rust? They can't be guaranteeing wax-quality shine after 52 months. And is it better than the 100 waxes you can do on your own for that price, or the 8 waxes you can pay someone else to do.
And what happens when you need to get an area polished? Or contamination removal? Does the warantee only work with professional washing?

Some questions for you, but I can't believe any product will protect for 5 years, though I offer a permanent product that fixes problems, new scratching will make the paint look faded and dull after even three years--or three months with a black car.

If you aren't fussy, though, and don't like DIY, give it a go and let us know how it works.
 
They guarantee it as long as you come in every other month to have your car retreated. You have to have all your detail work done by the dealer or else you void the warranty on the product. It is a total scam and not worth it. Besides, teflon wont bond to anything unless it is baked on. Any product claiming to offer Teflon style protection is full of crap. Even the product you can get off the shelf that says it has Teflon in it won't really protect like Teflon. I have no doubt they put it in the product, but it isn't going to do anything unless you bake the car.
 
From what I've read about these treatments, I get the impression there are a number of loop holes in the "guarantee" which allow the dealer to get out of doing paint repairs. Additionally, I've read people saying that the guarantee requires re-applying the coating which the dealer charges more for. Of course, this is all second hand information. However, if you do a search I'm sure these are some of the things you'll find people saying.

Personally, the product holds no appeal for me what so ever. So, I have never actually looked into the fact & fiction.
 
Thanks for the feedback - probably saved me $499! Think I'll go with my "old reliable" Klasse wax and polish for now. Thanks again for the help.
 
Stay Away for sure! Ask them to see the details of this Guarantee and I bet you will find it is all based on what they say. There is probably nothing in writing. If you have a problem they will tell you to bring it in and let em have a look to determine if it's covered. They will never just tell you what is and what is not covered. I have found info from people working at dealerships that say most of the time this stuff is not even applied and when it is applied it's nothing more than a typical paint sealant like Menzerna FMJ or something. It also does require you to have the dealership re-apply it to keep the so called guarantee. Spend the $499 on some real products and learn to do it yourself.

BTW If you can't tell my car had this from the dealership. They wouldn't remove it from the price. I have swirl marks galore from improper application. Best to take the car unwashed/untreated and do it all yourself. I had the dealership remove the little dealer logo from the back, Guy was using a Red shop cloth and some spray bottle with "solvent" written on it. I almost died and told them to stop right there. You don't want people like this applying treatments to your car with orbital buffers!

Whew. Feel a bit better now! lol
 
Thanks Frosty - sounds like that's the way to go!

Unfortunately I just found a problem - foggy streaks that seem to be INSIDE the rear window glass! (please see my other post)

Thanks again for your kind help and advice!
 
Actually the dealer where i bought it last Thursday is 50 miles away - I have definitely decided against the teflon job based on all the great (and unanimous) feedback

Just curious though - I noticed some fogging/streaks that appears to be INSIDE the rear window glass - I can not smear them from the inside or outside. Have you ever heard of this?

Also, is it acceptable to take the car to a Ford dealer which is 5 miles from my home fro this problem even if I bought it at another dealer?

Thanks again for your kind response.
 
Yes. Take it to any Ford Dealer. It is under warranty or they charge you. Doesn't matter if you bought it from them or not.
 
Teflon needs to be applied at 750 degrees.
Ask the dealer if they take the owners manual out of the glove box so it does not catch fire when they apply it.
Later,
JU
 
i work at a dealership and i don't recommend their paint sealants. not worth the money. you can do it yourself for alot less. you can take you car to any dealership for warranty work. they mat be cold at first because you didn't buy it there but they will still do the work.
 
Thanks Maximv1 and all. Definitely a NO on the teflon treatment from the dealer.

Now trying to resolve the cloudy streaks/blotches on in the rear window visible only in certain light.

Just took it to the dealer today and of courese, it was not visible - it is very apparent under certain light only I guess.

The salesman was very helpful and took me to the service manager. Although we could not see the streaks, he told me to try Bon Ami. I just picked some up and will try it but am not very optimistic - the streaks seem to be INSIDE the glass. Tha salesman said it may be the factory tinting - is this common?

Any feedback appreciated. Thank you all again.
 
The volkswagen dealer i got my jetta from said to get the teflon coating, "you'll never have to wax your car again". I was like but i like to detail my car, he had the strangest look on his face.
 
97FLAIRSIDE said:
The volkswagen dealer i got my jetta from said to get the teflon coating, "you'll never have to wax your car again". I was like but i like to detail my car, he had the strangest look on his face.
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Must be the same look I have on my face when I hear someone actually bought the "paint protection package." I can't believe anyone actually buys this snake oil.
 
Another detailer dropped by, and one of his customers came in and said, "Can you clean?"
"Yeah," he said. "Would you like a wax?"
"No," he answered. "I don't need it. I got the teflon 3 year wax guarantee."
"OK," the guy said. "Go up to the Nissan dealer every three months, and park your black car beside a new black car. If it doesn't look the same, have them do it again."

After five or six repeat applications and paint repair, they gave him back his money, and the other detailer gained a customer.
 
sorry for bringin this topic back up again but...the dealer i work for has this teflon treatment (simonize) im not a fan of it at all, to me, its a basic sealant/wax. that being said, i have read the warranty papers for it, and this teflon treatment is suppose to keep bug splatter/tree sap ect from *sticking* to the paint. further reading says that this *is* to be kept up with routine maintenance (washing/waxing) of the vehicle. the paper work i read didnt say bout having the dealer do it or not, jsut says routine maintenance. dealers can sell these treatments cuz the price is being factored into the overall price of the car itself they are buying. *most* ppl are goin to hear the brief/general overview of what the treatment is suppose to do, then seller can say, this will increase ur montly cost xxxxx instead of saying, thsi is a $300-500 treatment. u break it down to a few dollars a month over 4-5 yrs, customer seems satisfied with the idea. if some1 reports a failure claim due to the treatment, there car is suppose to be repainted if the treatment fails to do what it claims to do. customer hears new paint job and figures, few bucks a month doesnt seem like a bad idea again. but u figure then, after 2-3 yrs go by, will the customer even remember they can claim a failure to the *treatment* that they prolly even forgot they had doen in the 1st place?? im not a fan of the product itself, but hey, to each their own i guess, its their money, lol
 
society in general wants a quick fix with little work.(diets, exercise, car care) that is why this stuff sells. that is where we come in to make money!
 
maximv1 said:
i work at a dealership and i don't recommend their paint sealants. not worth the money. you can do it yourself for alot less. you can take you car to any dealership for warranty work. they mat be cold at first because you didn't buy it there but they will still do the work.
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remember that most dealerships make their monet fron the service side . So I love to see other dealers plate holders on my cusotmers cars . it means we got better service , or they live closer to us and we get all the maintenance

Either way its all good .

Now that I'm in the service department I can't " comment " on the 5yr
sealant questions . If you know what I mean . I don't sell them or push them but I come in contact withj alot of people who purchased it.

If you check some of my old posts you'll know how I feel . :) :)
 
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