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Jakerooni said:I hate the crap... They use it constantly at the dealership I'm training at and I'm trying like all he ll to break these guys of this. It's "Ok" at best for only a few things. There are much better APC's/Degreaser's out there. The stuff is weak and highly ineffective for the most part.
Passrat said:I found it to be just OK but the dilution chart is optimistic to say the least. Without the "Green" angle I don't think hardly anyone would switch from other products.
If you want "Green" and strong try an online product called Bio Green Clean. It's supposed to be a new generation green cleaner made from plants - " leafy green vegetables, edible seeds and seed bearing plants" - And I heard great things about it, like cleaning BBQ grills and like that. So I bought some.
I tried to clean 40 years of crud off of my fathers garage workbench (he never ever cleaned it) - tar, nicotine, grease, paint, asbestos dust from brakes, concrete dist, and countless other ' brown' things that nothing else really cut through.
I tried fantastic, simple green, 409, "orange cleaners", a few soaps/degreasers, paint thinner... and it eventually looked cleaner but always felt dirty/grimy to the touch.
Then I tried diluted BGC, about 5-1, and couldn't believe the grime that still came off! Then I felt that old piece of formica that made up it's top and it felt CLEAN. Like really clean, like kitchen table clean, not an old workbench in a filthy cramped garage/workshop.
I've since used it on numerous other jobs at varying solutions and it's worked wonders everywhere. In fact I was thinking of starting a thread to see if anyone else used this stuff.
In fact it's so safe and non toxic that on the dilution chart they even list "babies"!
Yup, the "baby bottom" dilution ratio is 7 to 1.
http://www.biogreenclean.com/virtualoffice_files/Additional_Uses_and_Dilution_Ratios.pdf
Website: Bio Green Clean | Natural Cleaners | Non-toxic Cleaners | Stain and Odor Remover | Pet Odor Remover
mborner said:Sounds great but, hugely expensive. For $89 a gallon, it'd better perform miracles.
jordachep said:Simple green (or any degreaser) should never be used on any fabrics of a car.
You use shampoo because of the chemical make up. Shampoos have brighteners and softeners specifically for fabrics, as well as a proper formula to not damage anything.
You might as well buy your mother dish wash soap for Christmas and tell her to use it as a body wash and then use it on her hair.
If you run a business, you run a big risk of running into someone that took chem101 and getting really upset. They might sue or demand you replace the carpets. Even though you may not see any visible damage, you are inflicting irreversible damage.
I suggest buying proper chemicals, especially for the less durable interiors of cars. Educate your customers on the fact that most detailers actually damage and not clean interiors. You're customer will see you as a true professional and keep coming back.
jfelbab said:Do some research on the web and you will conclude that the term "green" relates to the color of the product not to it's environmental goodness.
Passrat said:Without the "Green" angle I don't think hardly anyone would switch from other products.
jfelbab said:Do some research on the web and you will conclude that the term "green" relates to the color of the product not to it's environmental goodness.
WaxManRonnie said:I will use it on my own engine, but I don't do
engine details anymore for anyone.