silver cars DO get swirls!..recommend polishes

havabooz

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at times it seems that my silverstone 350z looks better when its dirty than a freshly detailed black car...but even though its the most forgiving color i found some swirls under my garage light at night



these will prob never show up but i know they are there and i want them out



been using zaino with proper towels but there was a time that i used improper methods with improper products so im guessing thats where they are from



i kinda like to stick to a minimum amount of product lines so im guessing 1z will be a good choice



for minor swirling do i need the medium cut followed by the mild cut...and what pads do i use...



its time to buy a PC..so if anyone wants to outline exactly what i would need to suit my situation it would be appreciated



and can 1z be topped with zaino because i plan to continue my zaino use..but we all know z5 doesnt really fill swirls so i gotta use other products for that



thanks
 
it has also been noted that the type of clearcoat plays a role in plishing



does nissan have a soft or hard clearcoat?
 
When it comes to polishing with the PC I like and you will get many different opinions here Meguiars #83,#80 and #9 or #82.Those combo's will cover a lot of situations you will come across and can be bought locally.When using Zaino as a last step product you can either use a isa/water wipe down or get some AIO to prep the paint and remove any oils prior to Zaino.
 
The 1Z polishes are great and very easy to use, however they contain come waxes and fillers, which will interfere with the Zaino process. Therefore you will have to perform another step to ensure these “contaminants� are removed prior to your Z applications (i.e. alcohol spritz and wipe down, etc.). Have you considered the Menzerna polishes? They do not contain any oils, waxes or fillers. When you are done with the IP or FP you can go straight to your Z application.
 
I get great results with DACP on my light grey metallic. For very minor swirls you may get away with using it on just a polishing pad. If that doesn't work then try it on a cutting pad and follow up with something slightly less aggressive on a polishing pad. Or I actually like to follow up with the DACP again on a polishing pad. Works great for me. I really like DACP - can't imagine not having it in my detailing box!
 
DAPC or Menzerna twins by PC. Follow with AIO and protect with Zaino.



Not much you can do with a silver metallic that is noticeable in terms of minor marring. They just do not show in natural lighting and any extensive measures to eliminate them is counter-productive. Consider yourself lucky to have such a forgiving color. My daily driver is silver metallic for the that very reason. It appears to be detailed, clean or dirty. As long as I keep a good protectant on it.



Your silver must be fantastic if people in your area that know how to detail a black finish still appear lousy next to your paint when dirty.





Not!!!! :)



The final exam in ultra paint care and detailing - non-metallic black. :wavey
 
I used Megs #7 followed by NXT and then a coat of Megs # 26 on my 2004 Silver Maxima with great results. I used a PC to apply. I can send you pics if you want.



Bob
 
If you want to be totally nutty about it (as with me and my S8 ;) ) you can try 3M PI-III RC and MG (used aggressively) then 1Z PP, and MP (or WPS), and then your LSP (I tried adding Menzerna FP to the mix but didn't see any advantage). *Nothing* makes my silver "pop" like the 1Z polishes do, I was really surprised.



Yeah, you can see marring in silver if you look hard enough under the right lighting. Does it bother you? Then remove it. Or at least try. I spend more time inspecting than I do polishing, and I still miss some things that'll only show up under rare conditions. Same ol' same ol'- it's the blessing and the curse.



Actually, the marring removal is just like any other color; you're really working the clear. It's the *inspection* that's tricky. Now single-stage silver/gray metallic like on my Jag is a different story, but that's pretty rare stuff.
 
Don't start off with a very strong product if you're not sure. You should not need something as stiff as medium cut unless you've been washing with a brillo pad or something. ;) By default, try a milder polish on a section first and see how much progress that makes. If that doesn't work, then try the next strongest one.



Try as you might to prevent swirls by properly washing, drying, and by using safe applicators and toweling, totally preventing swirls on a daily driver is a very tough proposition. Swirls are (arguably) inevitable, and every colour of car gets them. Some colours like silver are just better at not looking swirled.
 
thanks for the responses..the marring is MINOR...i also have some slightly deeper scratches but i wanna work on one thing at a time



like i said...the method with the least amount of products/ #of pads will be the best for me...



the marring came from using terry cloth back in the day to remove a polish that i didnt even apply correctly...i consider myself lucky cause its not that bad but it would be nice to conquer it sooner or later
 
last night i bought a halogen work lamp (man that thing gets HOT)



buffed out a coat of z5 last night and then inspected the car



although it looks amazing (even in sunlight) i can tell that the car could use some light polish to make up for the months when i wasnt using the correct towels, products etc.



anyway...can the menzerna twins be applied by hand and deliver results?



if so, what kind of towels do i use to apply and buff...and what do i do to the surface to prep for menzerna



(ps. dont wanna invest in a PC right now)



thanks
 
DAPC, Menzerna FP by PC or rotary. Follow with AIO and protect with FMJ. I honestly can say this is the slickest my finish has ever been....G35 Coupe, Diamond Graphite in color......



Good Luck -- But most of all have fun! :)



The Twins can be effectively applied by hand but I always find the PC and/or rotor to deliver the best results.. just my experience!



TC

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i know that PC will do a better job



and i would consider your recipe because my silverstone Z is the same as your DG g35



is FMJ as durable as Zaino
 
havabooz said:
is FMJ as durable as Zaino



I feel it is for sure and others have also said it was very durable... I use it on my G but she is a garage queen and never gets out in the harsh elements. It is soooo easy to put on and wipe off and the slickest yet... yummy!:xyxthumbs



FMJ is crafted in the German tradition of being a superbly well balanced sealant but breaks new ground with it's spectacular shine. Imagine the slippery feel of Zaino®, the depth of Pinnacle Souveran, the liquidity of Zymol® and the durability of BLACKFIRE all rolled into one product!



FMJ is our best winter wax. FMJ was designed to last through Germany's harsh winters. If you store a vehicle during the winter or just want to put a protective winter jacket on your car, truck, or SUV, this is the product to choose.



FMJ is our best coastal wax. The polymers in FMJ are highly resistant to abrasion (wind blown debris), salt air and salt water etching. If you live in a coastal community. FMJ would be our recommendation for keeping your vehicle looking its best.



TC

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