Shopping For a Polisher

Taschermann

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I'm shopping for a polisher to do work on autos, boats, rv's and motorcycles. Probably just be doing autos at first. Don't know how busy I'll be...



I'm considering the Wen 4" Orbital with yellow cutting, orange heavy polishing, green light polishing, black medium finishing, and blue fine finishing pads.



I'm on a tight budget, so if you have a recommendation, please take that into consideration as well.



Any feedback is really appreciated.
 
I spotted the Porter Cable on Amazon last week for $98. Some here posted about it. The PC is the benchmark device. Primary competitors (for the home user) will be Meguiar's machine and the Griot's machine.



Welcome aboard !!
 
Thanks Tom. If I'm lucky and I get a good response from my local market, will the PC hold up doing work on multiple cars weekly?



I'm trying to break in to the detailing industry. I don't know if I'll "make it" so I'm trying to invest as little as possible, yet be ready to do professional work if I get a good amount of business. The polisher I buy will be important. I've seen some(like the wen, and the 3d 7) for under $50. Many reviews, however say that they wear out. That they are for, like you said "home users." Don't know which way to go here.
 
OK, so you're going to add that new criteria. I don't know if the PC is the best choice, but premium models are going to be many times more $$. I sure woudn't go with a lesser machine. That will be pissing money away.



Could you live with the PC even if it lasted just 1 yr with heavy use? Would that be acceptable?



I have to believe my PC is 15 yrs old or something close to that. I've never had issue with it, but I don't use it more than 4 or 5 times per year. From a value view point, the PC might just be the real deal while you ascertain how serious the business might be.



FWIW, you will see used PCs here for around $50 with a couple of pads, etc. Maybe you could do something like that.
 
OK, old fart here, years, no, decades in the business.

Don't buy the Wen!

Oh, yeah, if you are going to use it once or twice a year, ok, but that's about the time it will fail.

You appear to be seeking an "obital" type buffer, you seem to be tending towards starting to do some detailing work on a semi-basis or moving toward a more regular basis, based upon your post.

Should your vision move forward, you will find that you will require a rotary buffer and all that goes with it as well, a pressure washer, etc, etc.

My advice, either go with the PorterCable, which is a reasonable price, as it last for years, or get a name brand orbital, many out there, you don't need to buy those which are on many detailing supply web sites.

Most of which are just "re-branded" versions of brands that are known.

Home Depot, Lowes, etc offer many choices.

What you "do need to think about before buying any" is this.

Does the selected machine allow you to change to various pads?

Can you put a micro-fiber or cotton polishing bonnet on it?

Can you use a foam or wool pad, using a velcro mounting plate?

Are such backing plates available for the unit should you need to obtain them?

Is the unit you are considering be one that has a history of longivity of use?

Should you experience a problem with the unit, is there a service center with in your area?

Not too many people have made a good living if they don't invest in good tools to do their chosen trade.

You wish to "break into the detailing trade"?

Does that really mean you are going to do so "full time", or just a "part time hobby" sort of thing?

A start up cost, for starting up to do a legitiment detailing business requires a lot of good equipment, towels, sprayers, applicators, etc.

No less than $500 to just get going.

Most will say that no less than an investment of $2,000.00 is required to operate a full time business meaning tools, chemicals, etc ,not including insurance, building or vehicle.

Plus, what is your "true knowledge" of what it takes to work with a customer, diagnois paint,trim, etc concerns and how to explain them to the potential customer?

Do you understand and accept that in many cities, etc, a license to do such business is required?

That it is very important that you have business insurance for such?

Do you know how to create or source business documents in order to present a professional business approach, let alone deal with the various taxing portions of your local, county, state and federal agencies?

Not trying to discourage you, please do not take this that way!

What I have posted to you is just the tip of the iceberg, sure that many on here who make a living at this industry on a daily basis will chime in, listen to them.

Just laying out "part" of what it really takes to do a professional business, one that does not end up jumping up in a year or so and bite you in the hiney.

Grumpy
 
Thanks guys. Ron, I didnt find your post discouraging. I appreciate the matter of factness of it. I'd ten times rather have a veteran like you lay it down honestly than sugar coat anything. I detailed for a yacht dealer and did some auto detailing in high school. I'm 25 now, and. Have an evening job. I will not quit this until the business becomes profitable enough. If it doesn't work it doesn't work. I'll be operating mobile. Working with the small busyness dev center and plan on getting some pro. Training in Idaho when my schedule and budget allow it. Any money i make detailing will be reinvested into getting better equipment such as betterpolisher air compressor, an extractor, water tank, cargo trailer, generator, reclamation system etc. I understand that I'll probably take a loss the first year, but I'll have my "job" I'd just like to be my boss and support my family detailing some day. Thanks again
 
Everyone should have the drive you do!

Go get em, Tiger!

You got the basis, you realize that it takes time, you are on the right track.

More detailing businesses fail than most other business, mainly due to the market being so "hacked", so many that go out thinking they can take home a $100 or $200 a day, just forget all that legal requirements are.

So many forget about taxes, insurance, materials, equipment, etc, etc.

Cash is good, but not in the long run of living and having a life.

I know, made many stupid choices as I went along or would have a lot more than I have now.

When one is young, toys are the focus, and yes, I do miss my 46 foot Egg Harbor, my Cessna 414, my Cobra's, etc, and we won't address the three ex-wives.

You show that you realize them facts, that means you are ahead of the herd.

Grumpy
 
Looks like I'm gonna start with the PC 7424XP

Along with UNO, Poxy, a Poxy pad, an UNO pad, a backing plate and some bonnets.

Any thoughts, feedback?
 
Taschermann said:
Looks like I'm gonna start with the PC 7424XP

Along with UNO, Poxy, a Poxy pad, an UNO pad, a backing plate and some bonnets.

Any thoughts, feedback?



I had it and bought the Griot's Garage DA. Will NEVER go back. The Griot's machine has TONS more balls than the Porter Cable. It feels more solid (to me), speed 6 (which you will use for paint correction) has more juice and it had a better warranty.



In terms of your budget, if that's the way you decide to go, keep an a close eye on the Griot's site. They already have free shipping and occasionally they will offer 15% off.
 
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