Pricing for Details

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Bobby G

New member
anybody want to let this guy back in???





Hello David,



I'm sorry. I am new and didn't know I couldn't put links to a commercial

site on my posts. I won't do it again. Please forgive my ignorance.

Please unban me. I like the Autopia forum and like chatting with fellow

detailers. I'm new at this. Thank you in advance for the consideration. I

will respect whatever decision you make.



Thank you.





>From: "David Bynon @ Autopia-Carport.com" <david@autopia-carport.com>

>To: "Detail_Magic" <Detail_Magic@hotmail.com>

>Subject: Re: When you were offline...(via Bravenet HumanClick)

>Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2002 00:37:05 -0800

>

>I sent you an email regarding the issue of SPAM. I had no less than a

>dozen

>complaints today. 10 of your 13 posts had the same link to a commercial

>site.

>

>

>----- Original Message -----

>From: "Detail_Magic" <Detail_Magic@hotmail.com>

>To: "vo362153" <david@autopia-carcare.com>

>Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2002 10:16 PM

>Subject: When you were offline...(via Bravenet HumanClick)

>

>

> > Why did u ban me? Whatever I did I apologize. I won't do it again.

>Please lift my ban status.

> >

> > Thank you.

> >

> >

> >
 
Well, considering that he didn't add anything useful in the 3 posts that weren't SPAM I would have to say no. Maybe if he promises that he won't put any SPAM messages up again, but that is highly unlikely. I would leave him banned for a month and then let him post again. Just so he realizes that we won't tollerate SPAM and he needs to be aware when people try to get ahold of him.
 
Funnny how he says that he didnt know but in his posts it was always a differnt story, "my friend tried this stuff. Bla bla" So he was tring to "go around" the rules.......:mad:





He craped on the floor......now let him set in it a while......:down



I vote no........
 
I'd be inclined to have him sit on the sidelines for a few days then watch his posts carefully if he is reinstated. If it happens a second time then he had more than enough fair warning and a second chance then it would be time for the ax. imho
 
<blockquote class='ipsBlockquote' >

<em class='bbc'>Originally posted by Brad B. [/i]
<strong class='bbc'>I would probably give him a second chance, and watch him closely. [/b]</blockquote>
.....like a State Trooper watches a speeder. :D
 
Was wondering what you guys that detail other than your own vehicles charge customers...ive been charging 175 for Cars and 200 for Suv,Trucks,Vans and thats pretty much a Basic inside and out detail
 
What someone else charges shouldn't have much bearing on what you charge. Your level of skill, location and clientele have more to do with your pricing than anyone here.

Charge what you can and what your worth.
 
While that may true, it is helpful for some to know what an acceptable ballpark range is. Local detailing shops way over charge for much less work than what I perform and I still have no idea what an appropriate price range is for my service.
 
If local detailing shops in your community have established that consumers are willing to pay XXX dollars for services? then that is the price the market will bear?.Why would you want to charge less?

How do you determine what detailing shops should charge or that they are overcharging?

Do you know what it costs them to operate their businesses, at their location, including paying a living wage with benefits to their employees and make a profit?

What you should be concerned about is getting a slice of that business and competing with them on the same level playing field by providing consistently better service at the same price point or higher.

If you are operating a bona fide business vs a hobby then your pricing should/must reflect the cost of operating a business which includes some of the following things:
Business License
Rent
Garage Keepers Insurance
Personal Health Insurance
Workman?s Compensation
Salary
Retirement
Bookeeping/accounting service
Payroll service
Advertising
Vacation
Taxes
Equipment
Electricity
Water
Supplies
Telephone
Vehicle (if any)
And every and all other expenses related to the operation of the business.
 
yooformula said:
While that may true, it is helpful for some to know what an acceptable ballpark range is. Local detailing shops way over charge for much less work than what I perform and I still have no idea what an appropriate price range is for my service.
Click to expand...

I think I'm gonna have to side with Street Dreams on this one. You say that a local shop is overcharging, but they still command that price and people pay it. Therefore that has more relevance to your pricing than a detailer on this forum who is not in your area. If you are better than the local shop charging high prices, then their price becomes your baseline. For example, the two shops closest to me charge $300 - $600 for a detail covering interior/exterior and some form of paint protection. Obviously there are many variables on the size, condition, requested services, but it all boils down to charging $40 - $60 per hour. You will find mobile detailers in my area charging $180 for a quickie, but there services are only worth $180. Do some research of services offered in your area and develop offerings and pricing that match your market and your abilities.
 
I also agree with Dave (Street Dreams). Dave and I both live in NJ, bot in different parts of the state. I cannot charge the same amount that Dave charges for a few reasons.
1. The area that Dave is in can demand a much higher price then where I live.
2. My skill level in not in the same league that Dave's is.
3. Dave has a high end clientele that will pay those rates without blinking an eye.

As stated, it all depends on what your market is willing to pay.
 
I also agree with David 100%.

I also feel that certain clientele will pay you what your worth regardless of what the shop down the road is charging...assuming they know how good you are. I've also found that if your prices cater to the "high volume" crowd then that is the type of work you will see the most, not that there is anything wrong with that either. I choose to focus on clientele that are more "car enthusiast" based, and most have spent time online and they understand the amount of work and time that's needed to do the job correctly. Figure out what your target market is, evaluate your skill level (realistic), and choose a hourly rate which you think you're worth. You can then sep up base packages based on how long it takes you to complete each job on average. An example would be my base exterior package. I know my hourly rate at which I feel my service is worth is $60/hr, and it will take me on average 5-8hrs to do the job. My price for that package is advertised at $300 with a note saying that there may be an additional change based on the size of the vehicle.


And to quote a saying I saw in someone's sig (sorry, can't remember who's), "I won't match the local high volume shops prices as they can't match my level of service".



Cheers,
Rasky
 
I live in long Island NY. Several years ago I was qouted $400 for full detail on a relativley clean E Class., by a top detailer with a major upper class customer base.

A plumber gets a minimum of $100 per hour. How much are you worth.

Harv
 
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