Paintless Dent Repair

SweatTheDetails

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Well it's winter. Time to switch gears, move away from the detailing and start to concentrate on the PDR aspect of my business. Not perfect, still a little wave to it but if your not looking for it, you would never see it. Not too bad for not doing any serious pushing in a couple months.

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I may be slow, but I do poor work.
 
Gotta do whatever you can to make some $$$ in the winter months! 


 


Was there an access hole already there in the tail light pocket or did you have to make one to access the upper quarter?
 
Looks great for how it started!


PDR is kind of like ppf. No one that is good at it wants to share tips and the guys doing it well are making nice coin. At least with PDR you don't have film that goes bad and is super expensive. But after doing it for years you get good and get to join the coin crowd.
 
I had to "manufacture" an access port. Some primer, stripping caulk, and a factory plug. Good as new. I detrimmed the interior but the only access was enough for 1/4 wire and I needed a lot more drive for that one.
 
Guru17 said:
Nice work. That is a tough candidate for a PDR, given it's depth to size ratio. Well done!


Good eye. The depth, size of the crown, and location near the body line added up to some stretched metal. I had to shrink it using a sharp tri pick and hundreds of small pushes in order to gather it back up.
 
You never want to say the words "drill a hole in your car" to a customer. I do have glue but with a dent on a body roll and that deep it would of been near impossible to get it looking right. I've seen some guys do some amazing things with glue, the guy that trained me was a real glue junkie. But if I can get a tool on it that will always be my go to.


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I may be slow, but I do poor work.
 
This is some crazy stuff. What an outstanding result! WOW. Amazing what you can do with a little time, the right tools and technique. Nice!
 
jimmie jam said:
This is some crazy stuff. What an outstanding result! WOW. Amazing what you can do with a little time, the right tools and technique. Nice!


 


Yeah, I'd agree.  I think many PDR guys would say it "can't be fixed"...
 
Really depends on your area. This particular repair would run $150 because of the depth and area. Most of my repairs run 75-125 for a quarter to half dollar size dent. There are a lot of PDR guys out there and some of the prices are all over the place, kind of like their skill level. I would ask for some b4 and after pics before hiring any one. Maybe even some references. I've seen some real hack work and if they hack it up too bad you will be stuck with needing a conventional repair that could cost big money. Here is an example of what I mean, lots of over pushing in the wrong spots. Kind of looks like a pizza.


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tom p. said:
I think many PDR guys would say it "can't be fixed"...


 


It's kinda a double edge sword and it really depends on who your client is? For example, drilling holes into a panel is a huge No-No for many PDR techs or Body Shops because you aren't permitted to do that for insurance purposes/applications. The line is clear that if you can't access it from on top or behind, then the only option is to perform a conventional repair. OTOH, if you have a customer (not an insurance claim) and they are ok with you drilling then by all means go after it how ever you'd like. 
 
dude, my recent PDR referral guy charged my client 150 for 10 min of work....IM in the wrong industry!  He knocked out a dent like that one for my client close to the body line as much as possible until the double wrapped panel section and it looked 85% better!  I was shocked at the price for what he ended up doing...he had 4 dent appointments that day already and mine was a "squeeze in"...guy made 1000 that day apparently in about 2 hours work time, but 3 hours drive and work time..  BULL$%^&


 


looks good and hopefully you didn't spend all day on it!
 
nice work dude. PDR is the first thing a detailer should learn how to do after mastering polishing paint/detailing. if you can not afford the training & tools, establish a working relationship with a PDR guy & sell the service in house to your customers. IF you as a detailer is interested in doubling your $, then pay up for training & tools. you will make your money back but remember, not everyone will be able to do this. many guys go through training & give up & back out. good luck!  
 
Other than the big players who advertise heavily (and charge just as heavily); any recommendations for training?

I would talk to a really good PDR guy asking him where he got his training, how long was it, how much it cost, etc...
There may be schools that just teach this ART and are not those big $$$ Detailing/$$$ things...

The awesome PDR guy I used in Washington went to some schools but I never had time to ask him the details of that.. If you are In WA., and want his name and nbr, let me know.. He is super great and a really nice person too.. He will remember me if you talk to him...

He had a lot of old looking long metal tools that snaked up under moldings, things, and a special light and with that, he made every small dent go away so well I could never find it again...

Good luck !
Dan F
 
If you get real good at PDR you could give up detailing. I figure there is much more money to be made with PDR. There is a detailer on every corner (quality varies greatly), but a good PDR guy is hard to find, and they are booked up. The work they do is amazing. Search PDR for some of my posts.
 
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