I let my wife pick out our SUV (metallic gold Landcruiser) and thank goodness it has no orange peel...just lucky I guess. But how is it manufacturers are able to produce some vehicles/models without orange peel if they aren't sanding and buffing (I'm assuming they don't sand and buff)? I suppose then they must be spraying really thin coats?
No Orange Peel?
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seth812 said:my car has orange peel
So does mine.
It's a fact of life, bro, don't get too down on yourself for it.
I just saw a guy with a brand new M roadster that had the worst case of orange peel ever.
You think a high-tier car like that would have had some effort put into the paintwork.
mikebai1990
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Does orange peel affect the paint? My new Mazda MPV also has the orange peel...
LeadingEdgeDetail
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'06 Dodge Magnum:
And I've been told that wetsanding OEM paint is just asking for disaster....
What are your guy's opinions on wetsanding OEM paint?
And I've been told that wetsanding OEM paint is just asking for disaster....
What are your guy's opinions on wetsanding OEM paint?
MrSelfDestruct
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If I had a new car I would just live with the orange peel, I wouldnt' want to be removing all that clearcoat. To me it seems that the flatter the paint, the easier it marrs/scratches... maybe it's just me??
StumpyDetailing said:'06 Dodge Magnum:
And I've been told that wetsanding OEM paint is just asking for disaster....
What are your guy's opinions on wetsanding OEM paint?
That's really some miserable paint! Never would I buy a car with sever orange peel, and if I did, I'd sand it out, knowing full well that it may ultimately cause premature CC failer...at which point I'd simply repaint it.
imported_Chris223
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If I ever order a car and go to look at it, I'll refuse to buy if the orange peel is as bad as that Magnum, that's just pathetic. I'd call the manufacturer, then I'd tell the dealership I refuse to pay for something that looked like that. Paint is one of the 1st things you look at.
LeadingEdgeDetail
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Oh, and here is a pic of a car I wetsanded every last bit of orangepeel from:
Orange is just simply par of the course today. 99% of car buyers don't even recognize it or have an issue with it so the automotive manufacturers have no incentitive to improve the paint process.
Personally, I would never wetsand OEM paint on a new vehicle. Removing all that clear can have some serious consequences down the road. The clear is a lot thinner than people realize and if you remove anywhere more than 1/3rd, you'll almost certainly have a clear failure at some point down the road.
If you are truly concerned, then have it wetsanded and recleared so that you have a decent level of film build to wetsand a 2nd time and the high gloss that you might be after.
Paco
Personally, I would never wetsand OEM paint on a new vehicle. Removing all that clear can have some serious consequences down the road. The clear is a lot thinner than people realize and if you remove anywhere more than 1/3rd, you'll almost certainly have a clear failure at some point down the road.
If you are truly concerned, then have it wetsanded and recleared so that you have a decent level of film build to wetsand a 2nd time and the high gloss that you might be after.
Paco
BMW_M_Pilot
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Yup, my new BMW M Roadster has orange peel bad. The worst part is that I don't know what is going to happen when I attempt to take out the toxic bird poo on the hood. I'm assuming that I am going to lose the orange peel there ... and that'll really look screwed up.
paco said:
Does that work? I've never heard of anybody doing that before (taking a factory painted car, wetsanding, buffing it out, then adding more clear (then obviously sanding and buffing it out again). I would think there would be issues spraying clear on top of old and already hardened clear?
if the orange peel is bad you never want to get in an accident unless you get the pannels repainted by someone who dosent know what they are doing. i got my front quarter repainted by the best painters in my town (Ken Smith Auto Body and Color), the new looked like a show car and butted right up next to it was my door withe the fabulous foctory orange peel. i wanted him to repaint the whole car. oh yea the dude worked with Boyd a coulple of times.
pwrstrk02 said:
Most painter/shops should also match the orange peel - they don't have to sand and buff all the OP out of a repainted panel. The biggest problem with painit jobs "appearing" to not match is that non-painted panels are usually swirled to hell. If I owned a body shop, I'd sell the heck out of details, telling people that if they really want the paint to match, it will be necessary to buff the rest of the car out (and of course it would be easy to show them the difference under halogens). I'd tell people "if you want the color to match, no problem...but if you want the gloss to match, it will cost an extra $300." I told a local body shop this and I'd give him kick-backs...and he sent me a couple jobs intitially (from which have spawned many many good customers), but he seemed to loose interest (probably too small-time for him).