Menz 3000+orange pad....Ok to finish?

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Striker

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I am a little shocked.

I just picked up a brand new Golf R and just wanted to clean the paint up a bit before ceramic coating it.

I started with menz 3500 and a white pad. Worked ok but still left hair line scratches.

Then I went more aggressive and discovered perfect round holograms from my pad (using a makita rotary on speed 1 for all jobs)

I was getting very frustrated. Wherever I put my led light I was seeing either the hairline scratches or the perfectly circular scratches from my pad.

I went w an orange pad and a menz 3000. It seems to finish great as well as remove defects.

I’m asking because it seems too good to be true LOL.

Should I leave it. Or do I finish w/ white pad+3500??


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If you are happy with the results...leave it alone. Old saying: If it ain`t broke, don`t fix it.

Sometimes you will get results from a product that you think are too good to be true, however, they are just that, great!
 
Ahh it works and it doesn’t work.

I keep getting those perfectly round fine scratches from my pad. I may stick to just 3500 on a white pad. I don’t know what to do.


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I absolutely hate polishing paint. Maybe it’s the dinosaur makita rotary that I’ve had for over a decade.

These are the fine scratches I’m speaking of.

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I think some Menzerna products don`t contain diminishing abrasives. It`s always best to finish with a finishing polish. I`ve used Menzerna intensive polish and found it didn`t finish as nice as I`d like.
 
I did the whole car with 3500 and a white pad. Came out 80 percent corrected. I’m ok w this. Side note- what is the best da out on the market now ?

Thanks


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This paint is really testing my patience

Tried a different approach. Menz 3000 with a blue hydro tech. Finished with 3500. Still not perfect.

This car must have had some serious clear scratches at the factory.

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Striker -- Congrats on a beautiful, very fast, car !!!! I love those Golf R`s !!!

These Menzerna products are swirl removers. 3000 = Cut-3, Gloss-9, 3500 = Cut-3, Gloss-10, 3800 = Cut-2, Gloss-10...
Menzerna 2500, Classic Medium Polish =Cut-5, Gloss-7

In the middle and a great product sometimes, is Sonax Perfect Finish Cut-4, Gloss-6

Your VW has pretty hard paint...
Did you measure total thickness before you started??

In your process, are you keeping the product and pad sufficiently moist throughout the entire passes, so that it starts to disappear into the pad at the end, and you have very little if any residue to wipe up?

I always wipe the pad off with a small white cotton towel after finishing that set of passes, to see what comes off and what color it is.. A cleaner pad always works more efficiently..

Once the Hydro-Shred gets too wet,(and this takes a while), and I can readily see it is not making even a slight improvement any longer, then I change it out.. I use a lot of pads, sometimes 6-8+..

Were those straight line scratches already in the paintwork before you started your correction work ?

I have never seen circular marks made by my pad in the paintwork while correcting.. Perhaps it is because it got a little too hot and dry?
I think that working any product too dry is going to contribute to adding stuff to the paintwork, and that is why I never let it get dry. I also hate dusting..

There is a balance between getting too much product and/or moisture together, and as you know, if it`s too much, that will give you splatter everywhere which I also hate and avoid..

My process with an older Makita than yours is to press down on the Makita as I move it, and keep the speeds in the lower numbers like 1,500 or so, and perhaps at the end, with less pressure, to 2,000.. Never higher, never needed higher.. I want to heat up the pad and paint a little, just a little, and manage by watching closely, how the correction and moisture level is going.. The machine will also tell you by the way it sounds, when it is changing underneath, and drying which causes it to strain more, slow down a little, than when it was just starting out moist and happy..

Oh, and I think you already know, that I only use Lake Country Hydro-Shreds, the Cyan the most, the Tangerine sometimes, if the finish needs more refining, or the paint is finicky, but not too damaged, etc..

And of course, it it`s really bad, and really hard paint, the Purple Foam Wools come out first, to knock down the defects fast..

You got this !!!
Dan F
 
Hey buddy I left it the way it is. I corrected the majority of the car but the hair line long scratches were em there lone before and rather unique as they were so fine and so thin and many of them going across multiple panels at once.

I’m now more worried about the high spots in the clear due to ceramic coating lol


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Mi Hermano, Striker --
She`s Beautiful !!!! Wow !!!! Love the pics !!
Must be so fun to drive !!!
You killed it !
Dan F
 
Thanks man. This ones a keeper. Last year of the mk7.5 and the new mk8 no one likes. I’m also not gonna winter drive it. Although it was going to be a daily. I just can’t lol.


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