Help Please: Tire shine stains on white paint...

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DCEIVR

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Hi Guys,



Looking forward to learning more about car detailing here. I detail my cars on my own, but would say that I'm a novice at the very least. The reason for joining at this point is time is because I have a problem and am looking to seek some advice on how to address this problem.



A couple of weeks ago (on a Sunday) I was out when it decided to rain rather heavily and the weather forecast predicted hail. So I hopped in the car immediately and rushed home so as to avoid letting my car get hammered by hail.



So in the process of driving the car in the rain the tire shine I use (Meguires Hot Shine) was slewed across the flanks of the car, on the guard lips and even my driver side wing mirror. Now my car is a weekend car so it doesn't get touched during the week, meaning the tire shine was left to sit on the paint for a week before I washed the car again (my mistake for not thinking properly).



I've since washed the car twice and those stains are still there, currently I'm in the middle of detailing the car in hopes of getting rid of the stains. However, what I've done so far hasn't had any impact on removing these stains. So I've washed the car again, wiped it down with Wax & Grease remover and claybared the entire car so the paint is now clean as hell except for the stains. I tried using Meguires Scratch-X and Meguires Show Car Glaze #7 Polish on a small area where the front bumper bar joins to the quarter panel and neither product did anything in removing the stains.



So clearly before I can finish the detail job on my car, I need to remove these stains (as I don't want to seal them in of course) and I'm not sure what to use to get rid of said stains. I'm hoping that someone here may be able to tell me what I could use to get rid of these stains. I guess I need a cut & polish product, but what level of cut I don't know.



I'd post pictures but unfortunately I'm not allowed being a new user.



Any help is greatly appreciate, thanks in advance.



Cheers,



Manny
 
Yeah, Scratch X is a paint cleaner, and if it didn't remove the marks, I think you should step up to a mild polish as deathlok suggested.



You may have to go #83 in the Megs portfolio.
 
Thanks guys, any other further input would be greatly appreciate. I really don't want to be cutting my paint in all honesty, the car isn't even 2 years old and being an Evo, the paint is already thin from the factory... *sigh*
 
That's called "photo spotting." This is why some silicone based tire shines warn you this may happen especially on white or light colored cars.
 
I can't imagine it just wearing off when Wax & Grease Remover nor a Clay Bar could get rid of it...seeing as I clayed the whole car, I used huge amounts of QD and that obviously did nothing.



It's definitely seeped into the paint...



Again, I'd post pics but until I reach 10 posts I won't be able to do that and I won't just randomly post anything to reach that. I'd rather just focus on the problem at hand.
 
Does it look anything like this?

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If so, I don't think there is anything you can do. My friend brought his commander to me after taking it to a local hand wash place. He wanted to see if I could get those out. I tried washing, then clay, then polishing with Optimum polish, then Optimum compound and NOTHING! We went up to a friend of ours (very very good and respected painter) and he said you can't do anything, it has burned itself into the paint. He said we would have to take the fenders off (all 4 had this) and sand them all down and then re paint them. The jeep was less than a month old. He went back and they said, of course, they did not do it. Anyway, I hope yours come off and you don't have to go through what my friend did.
 
Yes, it's pretty much the same as that...that is really bad news and not what I want to hear...but thank you for telling me as I'd rather know that be clueless...



This is depressing, I'm completely anal about the appearance of my car and these little spots will annoy me to no end...I hope there is a way to get them out...



I do have a detailer looking into options for me, so hopefully there is something I can do about it short having to kill the factory paint...



ARGH, I'm really annoyed at myself right now...this will sound stupid but my car generally doesn't see rain and one of the rare times it does this happens...ARGH!
 
You should try using F21 foam then using black magic gel over your tires next time, it makes them look good and i believe it dose not have silicone. I do it all the time and my tires look good until the next wash. the black magic gel lasts a while
 
I was suggested maybe heat the paint with a heat gun, do people do this and would it help in making it easier to remove the stains?
 
DFTowel said:
That's called "photo spotting." This is why some silicone based tire shines warn you this may happen especially on white or light colored cars.
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That is what I think. Try calling up the Manufacture of the products and see if it has a Dimethyl silicone in it.



In the future try a product that has PDMS water based silicones in a high percentage. I believe 303 has like 30%.
 
My buddy has a body shop and he told me about using a comet cleanser type powder. It only works on white paint,It has to be the white powder,He used it on his custom painted 84 camaro. I used it on my car years ago.i just got another white car.It takes the rain stains off the paint and leaves the paint "foggy' Use a good car wax after the powder. It takes just about any stain off of white paint. Just make sure the powder you use is WHITE, not the light green stuff. I get it at the dollar store,its called bab-o It really works. my buddy has a 3k paint job on his camaro,he told me about it then used it to show me it works.
 
Wow never had that stuff happen to me before. I guess you could try M105 but if that doesn't take it out then you're screwed.
 
Try the paint decontamination system from Finish Kare. It works better then clay, especially on imbedded rust and contaminants. Its the system I use on my bmw and any car after the winter.
 
grease said:
Try the paint decontamination system from Finish Kare. It works better then clay, especially on imbedded rust and contaminants.
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That's probably the best application a decon system is great on. I'd stil atleast clay in addition to a decon wash because it's not the "end all" for surface prep.
 
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