Door rubbers stick to door jam paint

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Manix

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My car door seal trip rubbers that go all around door frame always stick to the door jam paint that they rest against after it rains mostly. After a wash I always dry the water out there, but in the rain it can be worse. Sometimes its sticks well enough a child wouldn`t be able to open the door easy. I`m trying to prevent the paint from being damaged. i can`t seem to find any new replacement rubbers as my car is too old & second hand rubbers might do it again. The door jam paint looks reasonable condition considering its 16yrs old, the clear looks intact.

I have tried a coat of silicone lube over the rubbers but it did nothing, after a week it rained & they stuck to the paint.

I tried a coat of Rejex LSP & it did nothing.

The rubbers are always clean & I even gave them a clean with alcohol. It seems even a small amount of water causes them to stick. They must be completely dry.

Looking to prevent the sticking & if there is a product that might do it?
 
Gummi pflefe or 303 Rubber Seal Protectant are good regular maintenance options. Krytox GPL 205 Grease is also great and in your case maybe a better option. I use Krytox grease to lubricate the rubber seals on my convertibles hardtop - last a very long time and keeps the seals nice and flexible. A little goes a long way.
 
We used to have that problem with our 13 year old van doors and it did take paint .. we used a few coats of Trim Restorer and it never happened again :)
 
You can get some Sil Glyde from a parts store like napa and try it for the $ it`s worth trying.


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Manix- Your experiences make that Rejex sound like the worst LSP ever.

AFTER cleaning the seals *THOROUGHLY* with Griot`s Rubber Prep (and no, I don`t know of anything else that`d be as good... including IPA), I`d use the Gummi Pflege on the seals (let it dry thoroughly before closing the doors) and (after proper prep of course) a better LSP (e.g., FK1000P) on the painted surfaces that the seals contact.

Might need to do the seals over and over and over again...I lost count of how many times I did it to the `00 Tahoe and the `93 Audi, both of which had really dried-out seals, but they eventually stopped soaking it up (and just drying out again within a few days or a week) and they`ve stayed nice ever since with very infrequent reapplications. Don`t give up after just a dozen applications if it seems they could still stand more...at that point you might just be getting started!

The Gummi Pflege from Wurth costs a lot more, but is just a bit "cleaner", and IMO incrementally better over all, but not enough so that most people would ever notice. Both it and the 1Z/NextZett (is that the right name now?) do dry cleanly; no dirt-retention nor staining if you rub against them.

I don`t hate on silicone/etc. lubes or grease but those`re never as clean as I`d want for something that might contact paint, glass or clothing.

And, heh heh...you guys who act like a 16YO car is *old*...
 
I don`t mean to steal anyone thread. Does anyone know a good rubber door seal cleaner beside the Griots mention above? I already have 1Z Plastic Cleaner and D101 not sure if these products are good at cleaning door seals.
 
carnage- How does the 1Z work? Guessing "not so well" since you`re asking for recommendations...

Not interested in the Griot`s Rubber Prep? IMO it`s so good that everybody oughta have it on the shelf.
 
Accumulator said:
carnage- How does the 1Z work? Guessing "not so well" since you`re asking for recommendations...

Not interested in the Griot`s Rubber Prep? IMO it`s so good that everybody oughta have it on the shelf.
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I never tried the 1Z or D101 on door seal, I`m not sure if these products can safely clean door seal with extended use.
 
Try some Vaseline on the rubber seal. We use that trick in the north east to keep the seal from freezing the door shut.
 
NoWayOut said:
Try some Vaseline on the rubber seal. We use that trick in the north east to keep the seal from freezing the door shut.
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I use Vaseline for all sorts of stuff, but it`s *WAY* too slimy/messy for use on a vehicle. It retains dirt and then you brush against it and it`s a mess.
 
carnage said:
I never tried the 1Z or D101 on door seal, I`m not sure if these products can safely clean door seal with extended use.
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Would not be very extended use as you`d prep them once and then maintain with something like the Gummi Pflege (which I`ve used, with zero issues, for decades).
 
I`m surprised this is such an issue. Sure, *NOW* my vehicles are mostly garaged, but I parked outside 24/7/52 for decades and with minimal maintenance to the seals (Wurth Rubber Care, the Gummi Pflege) and properly prepped/LSPed doorjambs, it was simply *NEVER* a problem.

EDIT: Oh sheesh, the above sounds all judgmental...like, "I don`t have this problem so what`s wrong with you?!?" and/but I really DO NOT intend it that way. Just can`t figure out why it`s happening...do the hood/trunk freeze shut too? (of course, I do those the same as the doors.)

Products like whatever`s in the Gummi Pflege sticks/Wurth Rubber Care/etc. just don`t stick to any of the waxes/sealants I`ve used. Don`t leave stains or any kind of mess either. Easy thing that we oughta be doing anyhow to keep the seals healthy (they get hard to find as vehicles get older).

And maybe my sorta-Autopain detailing of the jambs factors in...smoothly polished and well-LSPed surfaces seem less likely to have issues like this.
 
Accumulator said:
Would not be very extended use as you`d prep them once and then maintain with something like the Gummi Pflege (which I`ve used, with zero issues, for decades).
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I use 1Z Cockpit Premium on the door seals. Every time I wipe them down my microfiber cloth gets black. I`m not sure if i`m getting them clean or there just also getting dirty. I wipe them down at least once a month.

What do you use on sunroof seal to clean and to protect if you have one? Will a coating work on sunroof seal?
 
carnage said:
I use 1Z Cockpit Premium on the door seals. Every time I wipe them down my microfiber cloth gets black. I`m not sure if i`m getting them clean or there just also getting dirty. I wipe them down at least once a month...
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Huh, in all the times I`ve use the 1Z CP (like..every time I wash an Audi) I`ve never used it for the seals! It seems awfully...uhm..."light" for that sort of thing. With interior surfaces I want that..minimal residue after flashing off. BUT for seals I want *lots* of residue..I want as much of that stuff to soak into the seals and saturate them (and keep `em that way) as possible.

My seal-wiping cloth gets stained sometimes, if I`ve let it go for a while, but that staining is limited and quits by the time I`ve finished applying whatever I`ve used (it`s never just a "one pass" situation any more than any other aspect of the wash seems to be). When I do a "big job" and prep/seal them the staining doesn`t happen again for a long, long time (I only do that big job very infrequently).

When you get the seals/etc. thoroughly clean...zero staining...and treated (additional applications don`t soak in), do they start staining again very quickly? The big job will hold mine for months on end; a quicky job lasts pretty much from wash-to-wash but even then the staining only happens on the first pass of a few particular seals.

What do you use on sunroof seal to clean and to protect if you have one? Will a coating work on sunroof seal?
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I just wipe them with whatever I`m using as my Drying Aid. All three Audis have sunroofs, but I don`t open them once per decade and to be honest, I just don`t worry about their seals as they don`t leak/etc.

Eh, there are all sorts of different "sunroof seals" and mine have felt-like "cat`s whiskers" stuff so I`m just glad I can basically sidestep the whole issue.

BUT...yeah, same thing. If a sunroof had a rubber seal around its perimeter, I`d prep it with Griot`s Rubber Prep (keep going until zero staining) and then I`d seal it with Ultima`s Tire & Trim Guard+ (multiple applications until you`re satisfied it doesn`t need any more) . I know I`m a broken record on that combo, but it simply *WORKS* for me, on all sorts of plastic/rubber surfaces that I had originally never planned to use it on.

If somebody would rather use Wurth Rubber Care or one of the Gummi Pflege sticks instead of the Ultima I can understand that...but I`d be using one of those approaches instead of the 1Z CP.
 
@ Accumulator The reason I use 1Z CP is because it light cleaning and non oily. I read it on other forums and gave it a try. The only down side is it weak on cleaning the door seal but great on interior.I think I`m going to try a weak solution of D101 and make it stronger as needed and see if that works. I also have the Ultima trim & tire plus and Gummi Pflege never used them yet. Does the Ultima washes off easy like during washing the car.
 
Carnage- No, IME the Ultima TTG+ doesn`t wash off, it stays put and lasts quite a while. Eh, I never like to say just how long stuff lasts for me since my vehicles are pretty pampered these days, and I`m *not* using the Ultima on the two dailies at present (just a situational thing, will probably use it on them too eventually). But I *am* pretty confident that it`ll last longer than anything you`ve used so far. I`m still a little surprised how much I like the stuff, even put it on a bunch of underhood bits.

I`d sure use the Griot`s Rubber Prep instead of an APC, but OK OK, sorry... I`ll quit harping on that.

Are you able to get the seals to quit shedding the "black staining"? I`d think that would be a sign that you got through the "dead"/oxidized rubber, down to the "still OK" level which is what I`d be treating with the Ultima TTG+.

And yeah, the 1Z CP *is* great for interiors! Just not the right stuff for the seals IMO. If the seals are shedding "black stain stuff" then I`d want to deal with that better than the 1Z CP can do.
 
Accumulator said:
Manix- Your experiences make that Rejex sound like the worst LSP ever.

AFTER cleaning the seals *THOROUGHLY* with Griot`s Rubber Prep (and no, I don`t know of anything else that`d be as good... including IPA), I`d use the Gummi Pflege on the seals (let it dry thoroughly before closing the doors) and (after proper prep of course) a better LSP (e.g., FK1000P) on the painted surfaces that the seals contact.

Might need to do the seals over and over and over again...I lost count of how many times I did it to the `00 Tahoe and the `93 Audi, both of which had really dried-out seals, but they eventually stopped soaking it up (and just drying out again within a few days or a week) and they`ve stayed nice ever since with very infrequent reapplications. Don`t give up after just a dozen applications if it seems they could still stand more...at that point you might just be getting started!

The Gummi Pflege from Wurth costs a lot more, but is just a bit "cleaner", and IMO incrementally better over all, but not enough so that most people would ever notice. Both it and the 1Z/NextZett (is that the right name now?) do dry cleanly; no dirt-retention nor staining if you rub against them.

I don`t hate on silicone/etc. lubes or grease but those`re never as clean as I`d want for something that might contact paint, glass or clothing.

And, heh heh...you guys who act like a 16YO car is *old*...
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Hi.

All these products appear to be nothing what their advertised, even 303 surface protector for my interior. Sitting in my room for 4 months on my headlight covers Rejex was still noticeable on there covered in dust. Outside though it gets stripped so easy. I liked rejex as it was easy to apply, just wipe on with a rag straight out of bottle & wipe off haze 10mins later. FK1000p looks a bit too much work with needing to heat it up, will see.

I will try the Gummi Pflege on door rubbers, but i think IPA is sufficient at cleaning them, unless my ride was a Ferrari. Seems to be more the rubber that causes the sticking, front rubbers are alot better than rear doors.

Thanks for advice
 
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