Best way to get rid of mice?

Richard Grasa

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I just got a call from a customer that has a mouse problem in her 2000 Accent. While the car sat for about 6 months, some mice made it their home and won't leave. They brought the car to the dealer who took everything apart, used some kind of spray and said the mice are gone now, but they are not, as the owner was greeted by one in the car yesterday. She would like to have the car fumigated, so I was wondering what would be good to use in a car that won't leave behind any nasty chemical stuff for whoever is driving/riding in the car. Plus being an animal lover and not wanting to kill the mice if not absolutely necessary, are there any alternatives to drive them out without fumigating?
 
I'd try with heat first, leave the heat on, possibly add some aux heat, I imagine they would leave the car once the temp gets above 120ish. Mammals can't survive in that high of temps. Then you'll need to find the entry point and/or food sources.
 
D&D Auto Detail said:
Im sure you could find a mouse trap that doesn't kill them.



In some states it is illegal to fumigate a vehicle without a license it has to be done by a professional fumigation company... so check regulations. The fact that mice are still in the vehicle would suggest several things... She is parked in an area where mice is still entering the vehicle an example would be living in a rural country area or a garage that has mice and it is possible the dealer did not do a thorough investigation and nests remain in the vehicle.



She should return the vehicle to the dealership if the vehicle is not parked in garage or in the country as the work was improperly done (failure to remove the rodents or nests) If you decide to do the work you will have to pull apart the entire vehicle, to find the rodents and nests, If it is not something you are familiar with then would suggest you decline the job as mice can nest in dashboard, cabin air filter area, headliner, pillars, trunk area etc. and again you would face the same problem if mice returned. In addition rodents carry contagions and is considered a bio-hazard cleaning.



I should also add that fumigating (spraying) with chemicals that has the ability to kill a mice is dangerous for the health and safety of the occupants so the entire vehicle must be cleaned to remove the chemical residue.



The following vehicle was completely disassembled and 7 mice were found throughout the vehicle



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Mice jobs are not fun...if it were me, I'd pass.



Little buggers can do some damage! Got into my hot tub over the summer and made a nest in out new cover.



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rdorman said:
+1! Of course, they bring their own issues....

You got that right!

Mine does not recognize me as his owner, supplier of food, litter box maintance manager, etc.



To Enstien, I am just "staff"!

Grumpy
 
LOL! And watch the car get "canceled" due to the presence of "ugly-big mouth" in the car.

That's when one really needs "haz-mat" to come in.

Grumpy
 
Living in a woods, mice have been a consant issue for us, and yeah...they have cost me some money over the years. Finally decided enough was enough...and no, the cat isn't really very effective; I bet the dogs have caught a lot more than the feline. Watching a big dog catch mice and chipmunks is a trip! But anyhow...



Live trapping has worked great for us. The "Tin Cat" ones can be good and can hold a lot of mice at a time, but I seem to catch the most with little Hav-a-Hart ones. Mice leave the vehicle/nest to get food, they find it in the traps, and there you have 'em! But you gotta take them *FAR* away or they'll just find their way back. People look at you a bit weird when you get out of the Tahoe with a few live traps and start releasing mice :chuckle:



You don't want the mice to die in the vehicle, lest they stink it up. It takes quite a while for that to clear up.



But if they're really taken up residence in it, all the urine is gonna be a huge issue anyhow, probably the worst issue of all. Once it soaks into stuff like seat upholstery and insulation, good luck getting it smelling decent.



ExplicitDetails- Smart move, passing on that job :xyxthumbs I do feel sorry for the customer though, it'd be a shame if the vehicle ended up being a write off over this.
 
I usually keep napthalene balls in fishnet bags in my engine bay as a precaution against them!



And use a dehumidifier for interiors to make the interior environment, hostile for everything! :D



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I've literally be apart of dozens of rodent infestation removals. Diagnosing the cause and origin as well as the severity is critical or more problems will continue to festure. Once they are removed, you need to completely remove and clean/treat the affected parts. That could mean even the complete interior including the dash. If you don't clean it 100%, it leaves an invitation for them to return.



In the future tell your clients to not leave any kind of food in their vehicles. Especially when there is a severe temperature decline. Rodents look for warm places like your engine compartment (engines stay warm for hours in sub-zero weather actually) and make homes there. Once there, they can and will chew your electrical wiring as well as fabric and plastic trim. They also pooo and peee all over the place and other animals end up smelling that and then it goes completely haywire from there.



Also, this is a claimable loss under your Comprehensive insurance policy. Severe cases should certainly be forward to your carrier for inspection.
 
The house mouse (Mus musculus) can at times be harmful rodents; they are carriers of more than sixty infectious diseases spreading them through their parasites and feces. They can transmit pathogens that cause diseases such as salmonellosis, a form of food poisoning. In North America, breathing dust that has come in contact with mouse excrements has been linked to Hantavirus, which may lead to Hantavirus Pulmonary Syndrome (HPS). So ensure you have the appropriate PPE (Personal Protective Equipment) gloves, masks, goggles and coveralls.



Remediation of odour, cleaning, sanitizing replacing components affected by the rodent to include ventilation system and cabin air filters.



Spray down with disinfectants and HEPA vacuum any droppings or materials they have contaminated. The danger from infection comes from mice droppings (feces) which look like black peppercorn and about 0.12 in long, and have a strong musty smell, its urine, which can be seen with a black light, a strong odor is more likely caused from decaying matter especially if the rodent has died.



Rodents are carriers of more than sixty infectious diseases like hanta virus and persons cleaning should wear PPE (Personal Protective Equipment) gloves, masks, goggles and coveralls, and not stir up droppings or materials contaminated. Spray down with disinfectants and HEPA vacuum any droppings or materials contaminated



Rodents due to their size (3or 4 inches long) are able to squeeze into many small places where they leave droppings, urine or nest and sometimes die. The areas to check would be the engine heat shield, exhaust pipes, heater box opening, and glove box, under dashboard and seats, door storage, the center console bumper covers and the trunk.



The odour is more likely caused from urine and / or decaying matter

Proceed to remove plenum cowling from around windshield and then clean and disinfect entire area and parts. Fog a/c ventilation ducts with disinfectants, remove cabin air filter and disinfect housing, when decontamination is complete replace cabin air filter with new.



Check behind heat shield for nests or decomposing matter, check the interior compartment, under seats to include trunk for any sign of droppings, or nests. Check electrical wiring for any damage.



Inspect all interior areas and under seats and include trunk for any sign of droppings, or nests and / or decomposing matter. Check electrical wiring for any damage. Once all areas have been checked, cleaned and disinfected, treat for odor with appropriate chemicals. When you have finished cleaning go over all hard and soft surfaces with Lysol disinfectant or a vapour steam cleaner.



Inspect all interior areas and under seats and include trunk for any sign of droppings, or nests and / or decomposing matter. Check electrical wiring for any damage. Once all areas have been checked, cleaned and disinfected, treat for odor with appropriate chemicals. When you have finished cleaning go over all hard and soft surfaces with Lysol disinfectant or a vapour steam cleaner. (See also Odour, Mould and Smoke Control article).




Accumalator - I like the idea of a Havahart® Small 1-Door Easy Set® Trap
 
David Fermani said:
... Rodents look for warm places like your engine compartment (engines stay warm for hours in sub-zero weather actually) and make homes there...



Yeah, like under Audi engine covers :o And the area between the gas tank and the bodypan (guess how much replacing fuel evap lines on an A8 costs :rolleyes: ).



Also, this is a claimable loss under your Comprehensive insurance policy. Severe cases should certainly be forward to your carrier for inspection.



My policy isn't nearly as generous regarding rodents as it is regarding some other critters (racoons = bears = great coverage...but rodentia = not so much :( ).



TOGWT- I got their *two-door* ones as I place them in rodent passageways. Mine are *not* what one would term "easy set", but a little tweaking of the linkage's contact surfaces will help with that (but don't overdo it or it'll become too tough to trigger!).
 
Cats - my 2 hunter/killers are young "fixed" females that keep the yard and garage rodent free. Example: last night I found 2 dead mice and a lizard they killed. They don't eat them, just play with and kill. There's a squirel that is really pushing his luck around these two, just waiting for his headless body to be dragged up on the porch - like "hey, see what we killed"

Other stuff like possums (yeah, I know people down in Johnson County consider them the other white meat) but those things eat .22 hollow points and die of lead poisoning!
 
JuneBug said:
Cats - my 2 hunter/killers are young "fixed" females that keep the yard and garage rodent free. Example: last night I found 2 dead mice and a lizard they killed. They don't eat them, just play with and kill. There's a squirel that is really pushing his luck around these two, just waiting for his headless body to be dragged up on the porch - like "hey, see what we killed"

Other stuff like possums (yeah, I know people down in Johnson County consider them the other white meat) but those things eat .22 hollow points and die of lead poisoning!



I have been told that cats leave the bodies for their owners as a "gift". They think they are doing good, so you should reward them for it.



Reminds me of a mocking bird that liked to torment my neighbors cat many years ago. The cat would sit on the top rail on the back of the wooden fence and swipe at the bird as the bird flew low. This went on for three years. We even tried to help the cat by use of a fishing net. That bird was annoying. Then one day the noise stopped and there were feathers everywhere.:rofl
 
Accumulator said:
Yeah, like under Audi engine covers :o And the area between the gas tank and the bodypan (guess how much replacing fuel evap lines on an A8 costs :rolleyes: ).







My policy isn't nearly as generous regarding rodents as it is regarding some other critters (racoons = bears = great coverage...but rodentia = not so much :( ).



It shouldn't matter. Damage is damage?? Can you explain what happened? I can't imagine a company would have exclusions for rodents? Aren't you w/Chubb?
 
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