MirrorDetailing
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Posting this from another forum where bad information was giving too a lot of people who did not know either way. Figured some quest or new members would see this and it will help them when searching for true Autopian Detailers.
As of recently there has been so much bad advice thrown around and products that are not considered anything more than OTC Autozone/Advance/Napa/O'Rileys grade products. I know many people have said that products "fill" and I am starting to think that either that information falls on blind eyes or people do not understand what we are referring too. I actually keep a set of pictures of a good before and after of exactly what crappy products with lots of fillers in them do.
Here is a customers black car that was nice and swirled up was before...
Now using 3M 3000 Step #3 Ultrafina with the LC Black Pad and a Griots DA at Speed 4...basically there should be ZERO cut with this process. After working the area for 2-3 passes...here are the afters.
Very noticeable difference. Nothing was corrected just filled in. If I was too follow this up with an Alcohol, Mineral Spirits or Eraser Oil Cleaner wipe down...it would look like this...
Basically nothing happened. Most "professionals" and I use that term loosely will do things like this then seal and wax the paint with more filling style Sealants and Waxes to help lock in the polish fillers to keep the car looking fake good for a little while. Over the course of a few washes the scratches are back.
Now in some cases this is a common technique from hack detailers with uninformed customers and will keep the customers coming back to waste more money with the detailer. Be it either the detailer has no idea what they are doing or they are intentionally doing it and convincing the customer otherwise.
So for those who wonder what we mean by "filling" this is it. For those who plan to go to professionals too have their vehicles done, its great to ask question. Get an idea of what products, pads and techniques the detailer uses and double check on the internet. Base prices against others. If someone can do a "full correction" in 3-5 hours...run...run far away. If you get quoted at $50-150 for a "full correction" .... run...run far away. Using the correction products, techniques, pads and buffers by someone who knows exactly what they are doing...will run you a lot more.
I get people blown away by my prices all the time. Someone will want FULL correction and their vehicle sealed and waxed. They are shocked when I tell them between $500-1000 in a blind quote. I will sometimes get responses as above that such and such will do it for $100. There is a reason i offer what I do and they offer what they do. My price justifies upwards of 15-30 hours of work...versus the ladder doing it in 3-5 hours, such as dealership detailers.
As of recently there has been so much bad advice thrown around and products that are not considered anything more than OTC Autozone/Advance/Napa/O'Rileys grade products. I know many people have said that products "fill" and I am starting to think that either that information falls on blind eyes or people do not understand what we are referring too. I actually keep a set of pictures of a good before and after of exactly what crappy products with lots of fillers in them do.
Here is a customers black car that was nice and swirled up was before...
Now using 3M 3000 Step #3 Ultrafina with the LC Black Pad and a Griots DA at Speed 4...basically there should be ZERO cut with this process. After working the area for 2-3 passes...here are the afters.
Very noticeable difference. Nothing was corrected just filled in. If I was too follow this up with an Alcohol, Mineral Spirits or Eraser Oil Cleaner wipe down...it would look like this...
Basically nothing happened. Most "professionals" and I use that term loosely will do things like this then seal and wax the paint with more filling style Sealants and Waxes to help lock in the polish fillers to keep the car looking fake good for a little while. Over the course of a few washes the scratches are back.
Now in some cases this is a common technique from hack detailers with uninformed customers and will keep the customers coming back to waste more money with the detailer. Be it either the detailer has no idea what they are doing or they are intentionally doing it and convincing the customer otherwise.
So for those who wonder what we mean by "filling" this is it. For those who plan to go to professionals too have their vehicles done, its great to ask question. Get an idea of what products, pads and techniques the detailer uses and double check on the internet. Base prices against others. If someone can do a "full correction" in 3-5 hours...run...run far away. If you get quoted at $50-150 for a "full correction" .... run...run far away. Using the correction products, techniques, pads and buffers by someone who knows exactly what they are doing...will run you a lot more.
I get people blown away by my prices all the time. Someone will want FULL correction and their vehicle sealed and waxed. They are shocked when I tell them between $500-1000 in a blind quote. I will sometimes get responses as above that such and such will do it for $100. There is a reason i offer what I do and they offer what they do. My price justifies upwards of 15-30 hours of work...versus the ladder doing it in 3-5 hours, such as dealership detailers.
