Weigh in.....Souveran paste or liquid?

[BottleHead]

Which gives the best finish when applied with a PC?



1) Liquid Souveran



2) paste Souveran popped out of the tin.



Is one any easier than the other? (Beyond the obvious paste vs. liquid)



Discuss!









.....BH

 

[SilverLexus]

I would apply Souveran paste by hand. This beats application by PC in either form based on my experience.



By the way, I have a tube amplifier and it rocks (an ARC VT-100).

 

[BottleHead]

By the way, I have a tube amplifier and it rocks (an ARC VT-100).

Nice amp!



Myself, I am a big fan of Ralph Karstens' OTL amps.....



My Atma-Sphere MA-1 MkII.3's











.....BH

 

[Glossmaster]

No Amp here............I'm a Drummer!!

Use the Souveran Paste by hand........SWEEEEEEEET!!

 

[6cyl's_of_fury]

Pste for me, never been a big fan of liquid waxes.



And you can still do a paste by PC - just run a knife around the inside of the tub, turn it upside down and and the wax should slide out into your hand (maybe wear a rubber glove). Rub it all over the pad, slide it back into the tub and get to work!

 

[Soarer V]

2) paste Souveran popped out of the tin.

I'd rather try this on something like #26 instead of my $70.00 jar of Souveran for fear of dropping this baby.:sosad

 

[ben54]

Go with the paste.

 

[6cyl's_of_fury]

I'd rather try this on something like #26 instead of my $70.00 jar of Souveran for fear of dropping this baby.:sosad

Provided you do it in a clean and well protected environment (ie a well covered work bench etc ), it shouldn't be a problem. Like you I was hesitant at first so I did it with my S100, but soon graduated and (touch wood) no problems yet. At the end of the day its only money......



I have this really good deal hooked up with my work - I go in there everyday during the week for about 8 -9 hours, and in return they give me money. Maybe you should investigate entering a similar arrangement? :xyxthumbs

 

[JustinR32]

BH,



Those look like... Futtermans! I almost bought a used pair, back in the '70s.



VTL175 monoblocks here, the ones with the 6 807s per side....



The paste, but by hand.



I don't use the liquid at all; it's no big deal. There are better products for the same or less money. It's a bottle of wax, no more, no less. Stuf is better. TW Platinum is better. New Formula Gold Class is MUCH better, darker and wetter looking.





Tom

 

[beastie]

Paste for me too and hand applied. From a fellow electrostat owner (Acoustat 3). tubes tickle me on other systems but Spectral does it for me.

 

[JasonD]

Pinnacle Souveran liquid was designed for light colors and paste was designed for dark colors. What are you putting this on?

 

[BottleHead]

BH,



Those look like... Futtermans! I almost bought a used pair, back in the '70s.



VTL175 monoblocks here, the ones with the 6 807s per side....

They are OTL's...but they are a far cry from Futtermans. Futtermans had huge troubles with extreme oscillations which could be caused by overload, component failure or even layout problems. In many cases, they had a tendency to destroy themselves along with an honour guard of whatever equipment they were connected to at the time.



You were wise in passing on the Futtermans. There was a reason they were for sale used, I am sure.



Present day OTL's, whether Atma-Sphere...Joule-Electra..or any of a number of others currently available, are a compleatly different circuit.



These in particular are five 6SN7s as cascode drivers feeding fourteen 6AS7G power triodes. A nice additional safety feature is that each side of the 6AS7G dual-triode has a fuseable link which will fail before anything could get out of hand. Not that this is at all likely, anyway. AsI said, it's a different topology which is a lot more robust. I can (and do, to set bias and offset) compleatly disconnect the speaker load while the amps are on and warmed without so much as a complaint from them. They are pretty bullet-proof, actually.

From a fellow electrostat owner (Acoustat 3).

Greetings from a fellow member of the Flat-Panel See-thru Society! Those are SoundLab Milleniums in the pic.







.....BH

 

[beastie]

I figured they were Sound Labs. If your icon is anything to go by, you probably listen to LPs. My audio set up is analog based (SOTA) with 4-6 thousand LPs. Since my newly bought house is being renovated, my system has been on loan to my brother and cousin. Detailing and cycling are the only hobbies I get involved with at the moment.

 

[JustinR32]

Martin Logans here, SOTA Sapphire with SME arm and Benz Glider. In my house it's the kids yelling at Dad to "TURN IT DOWN!!!!!!"



Talk about thread drift, LOL....





Tom

 

[mystickid]

are all Paste waxes geared toward darker colored cars???

 

[BottleHead]

Sorry mates, old school here.....



Linn LP12/Lingo/Cirkus/OpenBase/Graham 2.2t/Graham armboard/Benz Ruby 3H









....BH

 

[imported_mrecktid]

Here's Liquid Souveran on my G35. PM me if you want to see more.

 

[imported_liam]

lol - i think the above is a no.

 

[Mochamanz1]

I would apply Souveran paste by hand. This beats application by PC in either form based on my experience.



By the way, I have a tube amplifier and it rocks (an ARC VT-100).

Old school to the max , eh ?:bounce

 

[longarm]

I havn't used the paste soverign, however, I can say that the Liqued Soverign is AWSOME! It will leave a slick deep finish. I'll really lean on the SLICK. I applied using my PC and removed using my PC and a Sonus MF Bonnett. My wifes dark Red Sporttrac never looked nicer.

Clayed, Blackfire Polish, BLackfire Sealant x2, and Pinnicale Liqued Soverign x2