Thoughts on these products for a red f-150

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RedF-150

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I've been doing alot of reading trying to find as much info on my own since there is plenty. Anyways what are some people's opinions of the following for a 2004 red f-150? I bought the truck used from a dealership it has some swirls along with the dealership putting its signature on it with an attempted polish job. Sorry I don't have any pictures at this time. I bought a pc and have two of the green and one of the blue propel pads (p2) on the way. Are there any other pads of the p2's I would need for the below items by the way? I currently have Adams' scratch and swirl, revive polish, brilliance glaze, and butter wax. Just wanted to try something new and these items seem to be alot of people's favorites. From what I've read this would be the order I would apply these items except for the QD?



Shampoo-PB's SS&S

Polish(swirls)-FPII

Polish(cleaner)-AIO

Glaze-RMG

Sealant-UPP (Which is better spray or liquid?)

Wax-Natty's Blue

QD-FK 425



Just looking for a good combo for my red f-150 and my wife's torch red 2005 mustang. Also, I have some 845 IW on the way for our wheels and for winter protection. If the above process is good can I replace the Natty's with the 845 for the winter for some extended protection.



Thanks in advance



Todd
 
I've also got a red F-150.



You may want to go ahead and grab one of the Propel(2) cutting pads-- I believe it should be yellow. Even though our clearcoat is ridiculously soft, it is a pain to repair using a PC. I may eventually purchase a Chicago Electric Rotary to do some serious work on hood and roof scratches.



Anyway, red is an easy color to manage, so a glaze always helps. I find carnaubas tend to make it look very clear and reflective, but most sealants achieve the same look with easier application.



Since yours is a 2004, is it the heritage model or the newer body style?
 
I think that's a solid selection of products. I did something similar a while back on my red vw and it turned out great. RMG-UPP-NB is an excellent combo. UPP probably won't be as durable because it's being added on top of a glaze, but looks-wise it's a winner. I would get the non-spray version. My hunch is that the spray is meant more as a booster (kind of akin to Crystal Mist with Souveran).



Also, I'm presuming you meant Natty's Blue. I would go with that instead of the regular Natty's. Lastly, if the swirls are bad, you may want a stronger polish as well, like SSR 2.5 or something.
 
I've also got a red F-150.



You may want to go ahead and grab one of the Propel(2) cutting pads-- I believe it should be yellow.



I think if I understand it correctly the orange is the lesser agressive of the two and excel is currently out right now.



Since yours is a 2004, is it the heritage model or the newer body style?



Mine is the newer body style
 
Pennypacker said:
I think that's a solid selection of products. I did something similar a while back on my red vw and it turned out great. RMG-UPP-NB is an excellent combo. UPP probably won't be as durable because it's being added on top of a glaze, but looks-wise it's a winner. I would get the non-spray version. My hunch is that the spray is meant more as a booster (kind of akin to Crystal Mist with Souveran).



Also, I'm presuming you meant Natty's Blue. I would go with that instead of the regular Natty's. Lastly, if the swirls are bad, you may want a stronger polish as well, like SSR 2.5 or something.
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Is there any change to the durability on the UPP if you wait to apply it? The next day?



Yeah, I meant Natty's Blue. I was thinking that I may have to use something along the lines of the 2.5 as well. Do I need to wait on the orange pad from propel to come in or would I be able to use their green medium polish pad?



Thanks
 
RedF-150 said:
Is there any change to the durability on the UPP if you wait to apply it? The next day?



Yeah, I meant Natty's Blue. I was thinking that I may have to use something along the lines of the 2.5 as well. Do I need to wait on the orange pad from propel to come in or would I be able to use their green medium polish pad?



Thanks
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Regarding the UPP, that's a good question. I'm not totally sure, but I understand the logic..allowing the glaze to set so it doesn't mix, etc. What I think is more the problem is that the sealant is not directly bonded to the paint as much (or at all) because of the glaze being sandwiched in between. I'm just guessing, though. Others may know better.



I'm not familiar with the softness/hardness of Ford paint, but I do know that for my VW, Menzerna IP with an orange pad did not get rid of any of my swirls or micro-scratches. I even up'd the ante by trying a 4" pad which yielded the same result (or lack of a result). Then again, VW clear is apparently very hard. It's probably not the best example. I'm going to give Optimum Compound a shot next.



I guess the rule of thumb is to try the least aggressive combo and see if that works. If not, go the next step up until you notice a difference. I tried about 10 different combos of pad type, size, speed, pressure, polish, etc. before resorting to the 4" orange at speed 6.



Good Luck!
 
RedF-150 said:
Looking for some more opinions
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When working with Red, I usually use a Carnauba. If sealing, I will usually go with Poorboys EX. Is your red metallic? I think your combo in the first post will look good, but if it were me, I would probably not go the glaze route. Though I have never tried it, and it may work just fine, I dont think glazing before using UPP is ideal for durability. HTH,
 
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