Slicking Opti-coat

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Was reading on the optimum forums that Opticoat leaves an non-slick, 'clear-coat' feeling (not sure I described that well but hopefully so). On that thread they recommend using Poli-seal to even it out and give it a slick feeling. I don't have any Poli-seal but I do have some Prima Amigo lying around.



Do you think Amigo or another glaze would be a good substitute?



TIA,

Tony
 
I think the main issue is that even if you did apply a topper, it wouldn't last very long at all since nothing can (from what I gather listening to Dr. G, Chris, and others who have used/tested the product) really bond to the Opti-Coat.



On another forum I remember reading a post from Richy saying that he's used Car Pro's ReLoad on top of OC successfully though, and it evidently did add some slickness to the surface.
 
That's the reason I'm not jumping on the opti coat train - I've heard it just doesn't feel slick and to me, that's more important than the coating/protection. I can wax or seal my car or others in very little time so re-applying every couple months is not a big deal. And it does bring back my maintenance customers. Hey just my 2 cents, be cool!
 
It is not slick in the traditional sense, but I never used a product that sheds water and most 'dirt' with just a plain water spray.



Even "just waxed" (insert your traditional product here) applications do not compare.





BD
 
It feels very smooth and where you feel the slickness is when you wash it.



I've been using OCW on top of mine, so has a customer. He had be put the coating on his car about a year ago, said he'd maintain it with OCW. Hasn't called me back out to detail his car so it must be holding up well.
 
JuneBug said:
That's the reason I'm not jumping on the opti coat train - I've heard it just doesn't feel slick and to me, that's more important than the coating/protection. I can wax or seal my car or others in very little time so re-applying every couple months is not a big deal. And it does bring back my maintenance customers. Hey just my 2 cents, be cool!
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Seriously, don't let that hold you back from trying that amazing product. I have used ReLoad on several different vehicles including both the GT-R and the Concorde that I posted. Both were as slick as eel snot after the ReLoad!!
 
richy said:
Seriously, don't let that hold you back from trying that amazing product. I have used ReLoad on several different vehicles including both the GT-R and the Concorde that I posted. Both were as slick as eel snot after the ReLoad!!
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How long are you waiting between OC application and topping with ReLoad?
 
Shiny Lil Detlr said:
How long are you waiting between OC application and topping with ReLoad?
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Charlie, in the cases of the GT-R and the Concorde, it was the following day. If I am more pushed for time, it'll be right before I deliver it. I think Chris recommends the next day for topping it. I basically will wait as long as I can.
 
richy said:
Charlie, in the cases of the GT-R and the Concorde, it was the following day. If I am more pushed for time, it'll be right before I deliver it. I think Chris recommends the next day for topping it. I basically will wait as long as I can.
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Cool. Pretty much what I figured, the standard "12-24 hour cure" window we're used to with sealants but given the different chemistry I thought I'd ask. Thanks for confirming!
 
I have clients that I've OC'd both of his cars and I've instructed him to use Optimum Car Wax and Opti-Seal when he gets bored. Funny thing is both cars are black and both go through touchless washes mostly.
 
David Fermani said:
I have clients that I've OC'd both of his cars and I've instructed him to use Optimum Car Wax and Opti-Seal when he gets bored. Funny thing is both cars are black and both go through touchless washes mostly.
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David - What is your perspective on whether to top the OC finish with something else? Does it have less slickness and depth than a Carnauba? Can you top OC with Carnauba, or only with a polymer or silicone sealant?
 
OC is definitely not slick like most waxes and sealants, but I don't see that as being an issue, even though I do like a slick feeling wax/sealant.



I really don't get why people insist on topping it with something else? I can see hitting it with something if you want to amp up the look for a car show or meet, but your paint will then take on the attributes of the product you top it with (though temporary) and you'll lose out on the best things about OC.



If someone is that worried about a slick feel and always want to apply other products then why use OC at all? :noidea:





Just seems silly to me, but to each their own I guess. :)
 
RaskyR1 said:
OC is definitely not slick like most waxes and sealants, but I don't see that as being an issue, even though I do like a slick feeling wax/sealant.



I really don't get why people insist on topping it with something else? I can see hitting it with something if you want to amp up the look for a car show or meet, but your paint will then take on the attributes of the product you top it with (though temporary) and you'll lose out on the best things about OC.



If someone is that worried about a slick feel and always want to apply other products then why use OC at all? :noidea:





Just seems silly to me, but to each their own I guess. :)
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Chad, I love OC. The only drawback (other than ease of application) is the feel of it. ReLoad does not change the look at all. It sure does make it slick however. AW is pretty good on it too.





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richy said:
Chad, I love OC. The only drawback (other than ease of application) is the feel of it. ReLoad does not change the look at all. It sure does make it slick however. AW is pretty good on it too.





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I've gotten the chance to use the Reload over OC a couple of times now and I have to agree, it really does slick it up quite effectively.
 
OC is definitely not slick like most waxes and sealants, but I don't see that as being an issue, even though I do like a slick feeling wax/sealant.
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I would have thought the reason was obvious. We have been conditioned to think that "slick is good" by just about every sealant manufacturer out there including Optimum Technologies. We are conditioned, so effectively so have our customers become conditioned.



When I can (within time constraints) I finish every Opti-Coat or Opti-Guard application with Poli-Seal on a blue pad and then advise the customer to use OCW after every wash or at least every second wash. Opti-Seal adds just the right amount of slickness in my opinion and certainly adds to the "wow" factor when the client picks up the vehicle. You may not agree, but I reckon the "wow" factor is really important for customer satisfaction and probably sets you apart for the quality of your work as compared to other detailers. The other advantage of having Poli-Seal on hand is that if you do have a slight stuff up with a stain (high spot or whatever you want to call it) from the application then Poli-Seal on the blue pad will quickly eliminate it.



I also don't buy the theory that nothing will stick to it. I certainly haven't noticed a pool of OCW on the ground after washing an Opti-Guard'ed vehicle weekly. Why use it? I would have also thought that was obvious - because it offers those permanent extra microns of amazing protection.
 
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