ONR. Is there really a need for the 2nd bucket?

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Rez90

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I've been using ONR throughout the winter and LOVE it. It's probably the best product i've found in a long time.



Here's my question. I use 2 buckets. One with ONR solution and the other clean water. I wash the car one panel at a time and put the microfiber in the clean bucket after wiping down.



The thing is....all the dirt and grime stays on the towel regardless of how much i scrub it on the grit guard and when it goes back into the ONR bucket it looks exactly the same. I typically turn the towel to a clean side each time i do a new panel.



But overall...is there really a need for the 2nd bucket considering it doesn't really release any of the dirt or grime from the towel being used?





Thanks
 
Hmm. For me, when Im done, the plain bucket of water is filthy and the ONR is relatively clean.



My best guess is that you should not scrub the MF on the grit guard. You are soaking all the dirty water right back into the towel. Simply ring out the towel under the water, dont release your pressure on it until you put the mf back into the ONR solution. That way, your towel only soaks up clean ONR and you push out the dirt into the rinse bucket. Make sense, somewhat?
 
I've always used the single bucket method. If the car is really dirty, I just change the ONR bucket out halfway through the wash.
 
Scottwax said:
I've always used the single bucket method. If the car is really dirty, I just change the ONR bucket out halfway through the wash.
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wow how does that work scott? Single bucket for ONR and you just rinse your wash media out per panel with a hose or something?
 
I also use a single bucket. but on a dirty car I will change the wash media as it gets dirty and will not release grime (releases dirt just fine). For me, the dirt drops to the bottom of the bucket, the oil/grime floats to the top and clings to the sides, so the ONR in the middle is plenty clean.
 
craigdt said:
Hmm. For me, when Im done, the plain bucket of water is filthy and the ONR is relatively clean.
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^this.



And I wring out the sponge outside of the rinse bucket. ONR>Wash>Rinse>Wring repeat. To me i feel that prevents the sponge from sucking back in what you just expelled in the rinse bucket.
 
Why is this even a consideration? What possible harm could come from using a second bucket? Whats the cost in money and time of using a second bucket? I see no reason to risk using a single bucket when there is no reason not to use a second bucket. One look at the rinse bucket after a wash should be all thats needed to convince any one that you don't want that crap in your wash bucket.
 
I usually use a single bucket.



On occasion, I will use the 2 bucket method, with a twist. I use one as a "rinse" bucket, but both buckets contain the regular ONR mixture.



I found that using water only for the second bucket diluted the mixture in the wash bucket due to a transfer between the buckets, as I don't wring out the mitt that throroughly while rinsing since I don't want to grind dirt into it.



I may be wasting ONR that way, but it insures that the solution that is applied to the paint has the proper dilution ratio.
 
I actually use three buckets. One for wash. One for rinse. One for wheels and wells.



Don't tell me you people using one bucket also use that bucket for wheels and wells:soscared:
 
Anthony A said:
Why is this even a consideration? What possible harm could come from using a second bucket? Whats the cost in money and time of using a second bucket? I see no reason to risk using a single bucket when there is no reason not to use a second bucket. One look at the rinse bucket after a wash should be all thats needed to convince any one that you don't want that crap in your wash bucket.
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Time, hassle, and waste of water. I see no reason to use a rinse bucket when all the dirt falls below the grit guard and all the grease/scum sticket to the edges of the bucket. That and its what OPT recommends:



"Directions: Add 1 oz. of No Rinse™ Wash & Shine to 1-2 gallons of water in the wash bucket. Soak Optimum Xtra Large Microfiber Towel in the wash bucket. Wash one car panel. Soak the towel in the wash bucket again and do another panel till the entire vehicle is washed. Use a fresh Xtra plush Microfiber Towel to dry the car."



Though I do admit I use a 4 gallon bucket, not a 2.
 
yakky said:
Time, hassle, and waste of water.
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The savings in water is so small it's not even worth considering. The big savings in water comes from doing a rinseless wash instead of a regular wash.



I don't see how you save time. You still rinse the mitt just in a different bucket. Are you referring to the 20 seconds it takes to fill the second bucket? Hmm what you gonna do with all the time you saved?



Hassle? Marred vehicles are a hassle. Filling a second bucket is not.
 
Anthony A said:
The savings in water is so small it's not even worth considering. The big savings in water comes from doing a rinseless wash instead of a regular wash.



I don't see how you save time. You still rinse the mitt just in a different bucket. Are you referring to the 20 seconds it takes to fill the second bucket? Hmm what you gonna do with all the time you saved?



Hassle? Marred vehicles are a hassle. Filling a second bucket is not.
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I guess my hose is slow.



Filling the bucket with water - 60 seconds

Time wasted dragging around a second bucket instead of just one ~60 seconds

Time spend dumping the second bucket (I take it inside and dump it in the toilet)and rinsing it out, 2 minutes



So 4 minutes...hmm, thats enough time to QD the car or dress the tires.



And I still don't get marring. If you like two buckets, use them, however you don't need to.
 
im lucky to have a sink a few steps away so i use 1 bucket with about 3-4 gallons and rinse the wash media under the sink every couple panels depending on how dirty the vehicle is. it works better than swishing it in a bucket and most of the grime not coming off.

i also use a pump sprayer to presoak the lower panels, and swap out the water and wash media accordingly. and then i reuse that dirty water for upkeep on already degreased wheel wells. :) onr ftw
 
I have always used a single bucket method for ONR and I am glad to hear that Scottwax and Yakky do as well. I'm basically a hack who does details occasionally for others but mostly for my immediate family. These guys have some impressive details under their belts.
 
Anthony A said:
Why is this even a consideration? What possible harm could come from using a second bucket? Whats the cost in money and time of using a second bucket? I see no reason to risk using a single bucket when there is no reason not to use a second bucket. One look at the rinse bucket after a wash should be all thats needed to convince any one that you don't want that crap in your wash bucket.
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Why? Because when used as directed, the one bucket method will induce no marring. I've had the water in the bucket nearly black and the cars still came out clean and free of marring. I try to keep things as simple as possible when it is safe to do so.
 
Ok, so exactly how long does it take for the dirt/abrasives to fall below the grit guard-a few seconds, minutes or is it possible that the crud stays in suspension?



AND is it the consensus of all users of ONR that the grit stays at the bottom of the bucket (s) regardless of the level of enthusiasm when one places the dirty -wash media- into the solution??



Not trolling, just wondering thats all.
 
I only use one bucket and even if the water gets dirty, I don't change it and I have had no problems.



For you people who do the two bucket method and swap the water out 2-3 times.........do you change your oil every 500 miles as well just to be sure you have clean oil in your cars?
 
ThomasC said:
Ok, so exactly how long does it take for the dirt/abrasives to fall below the grit guard-a few seconds, minutes or is it possible that the crud stays in suspension?



AND is it the consensus of all users of ONR that the grit stays at the bottom of the bucket (s) regardless of the level of enthusiasm when one places the dirty -wash media- into the solution??



Not trolling, just wondering thats all.
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There is no way the grit guard can trap all the dirt below it. The dirt can be very fine and easily get agitated and float back up above the grit guard.



I don't buy into the grit guard totally any ways. Seems to me if the holes in the grit guard are big enough for the dirt to fall through and get beneath the guard they can surely go the other way and come back up.
 
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