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I am new to using a rotary, or even a pc. I decided to go with a rotary for the fact that I don't want to regret not getting one 6 months from now. Well I am not sure what rotary I should get nor what products to get. Can anyone recommend which rotary, pads and products to get?
 
I would definetly start out with a PC. That way you can get used to polishing via a machine. The last thing you want to do is practice on your own (Or a clients car) with a rotary.......Reconsider your options if youve never handled a rotary before.....
 
I know a guy whose dad owns a body shop. He is very fimilar with using a rotary and has seen me detail a car before. He thinks I should just go with a rotary, and that I would be fine using one. I am having mixed feelings about getting a rotary. I want to get one because of the results that can be achieved with it. I know I could master it with a little practice, but I dont know. Let me give you an idea of what I would be using the rotary on. 1.) Heavily oxidized red 91 3000gt vr4, i used a cheapo polisher/buffer on it with some 3m liquid compound just to see what it would do, brought back the color but now theres swirl marks in the paint, <--This will most likely be the first car I try. 2.)black 99 altima, swirl marks everywhere, shines when you wash it but needs help. 3.) my truck 96 explorer limited, ivory pearl metallic, no depth at all, no swirls. Then eventiually when I have had some practice I will be doing an indy yellow pearl 01 s2000.
 
Makita 9227 then . Only thing to worry about when using a rotary imho is burning the paint from not knowing how to hold & balance it and how much pressure to add if any or how to work the pads and ESPECIALLY at what speeds to work with what pads

Rotary is superior to a PC anyday and everyday , but the pc's feel and user friendliness is why everyone who doesnt need body shop buffing capablities or paint repair capabilities recopmmends them .

If you were wet sanding , wool pads of various grades would be needed .

For swirls and oxidization it's best to start with a higher grade cutting pad and work down as needed if your not getting what you want .



For it's user friendliness I HIGHLY recommend the quick change series from edgepads.com or ed2k system . They even have double sided dual grade pads .

Makita 9227 + Edge 2000 adapter and pads would be excellent .

http://www.properautocare.com/makhigspeedp.html

http://www.edgepads.com/E2kfoam.htm

http://www.edgepads.com/E2kwool.htm

Depending on how bad your paint(s) condition is , Poorboy's makes an excellent line-up .

http://www.poorboysworld.com/super-swirl-removers.htm SSR3 is their heaviest grade cutting compound .

You will have to go to 2.5 and 2 and finally SSR1 with different grades of pads to remove each grade compounds's marring and hologramming .

Post photos of the car's conditions and the guy who REALLY know which product does exactly what can make a better recommendation
 
Please listen to akaPatrick!



You can NUKE your paint in the blink of an eye with a rotary. Baby steps (no insult intended), just like polishing. Start out with the least aggressive pad and polish combination FIRST. Only when you judge it is taking to long or having no effect, then move up the aggression scale - change pad or product but not both at the same time (until you have learned what specific pad and product combinations will do for you in correcting specific defects).



The guys and gals here KNOW what they are talking about and will freely share their experience and give sound advice.
 
Only thing to worry about when using a rotary imho is burning the paint from not knowing how to hold & balance it and how much pressure to add if any or how to work the pads and ESPECIALLY at what speeds to work with what pads
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Pretty substantial learning curve ya ask me.......And follow Gonzos advice as well........
 
Yeah, I used a rotary first and I too believe that's *NOT* the way to go. The potential for damage, the sling....plus, if you get holograms from the rotary work you will probably want to use a PC to remove them. While some people never have a problem with such things, note that Mike Phillips, who gets paid by Meguiar's to do this stuff and has been using a rotary longer (and better) than most anyone I can think of and he *still* gets them from time to time. And he uses a PC to remove them.



If you're absolutely certain that a PC won't cut it for you, consider a Cyclo. It makes for a *very* smooth transition to a rotary once you have some experience.
 
I just want to thank you guys for responing. Now I want to get a pc and a rotary. lol. I am going to have to take a picture of the 3000gt and the altima, the need it the most. From there will you guys tell me which one I should go with?
 
First let me say this, If rotary was easy to use then why do most dealership preped cars have swrils in them and why are so many people afraid to use them.

I started with a rotary 10 years ago and now I'm fixing alot of other peoples swirls, not that I still don't swirlonce in awhile, everyone gets it from time to time. There is just a huge learning curve with the rotary that it can take a couple of years to master. I"m still lokking for better ways and different combanations of pads and chemicals. The PC is much easier to use and much more forgiving. if your cars aren't heavily scratched then go with the PC. You can remove oxidization and swirls with a PC and not envoke any damage to your paint. Also once your paint is in great shape then all you should have to use is the PC to give it that wet look and depth we all look for. The choice is yours!! I've had my rotary for 10 years my PC for about 4 years and I love them both and I"m stilling learning tricks with them both.



How about this, your buddy with the bodyshop. See if he will let you borrow one of his rotarys and see what happens, maybe under his supervision. It would be a great way to learn. Or where are you located? is there anyone on autopia near you or local detail shops you can get to know and have them show you a thing or two. I know if your in my area Erie, PA I'd help you out and get you started.



hope this helps,

Brandon a.k.a. Chubs
 
I am going to start with a PC first, and see what happens. Everything I have read made using a rotary seem easy to use. Now what brand of pads and products should I go with. Should I order them online or go to a detail supply store to get it?
 
I bought a PC around a year ago, or less, whatever...but i dont regret it for one second.



Rotary for me would only be used a couple times a year, as i am getting pretty good washing technique now a days, so i dont have to polish aggressively anymore-much hahahaha.
 
JBM said:
I bought a PC around a year ago, or less, whatever...but i dont regret it for one second.



Rotary for me would only be used a couple times a year, as i am getting pretty good washing technique now a days, so i dont have to polish aggressively anymore-much hahahaha.
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And in addition to owning a PC and rotary, I also have a Cyclo. I have found a use for each machine, and wouldn't give any one of them up.
 
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