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Whay cant you apply a wax over zaino. It seems like KLasse that you would bet the best of both worlds by topping the zaino with a carnauba. Will the wax just not bond...?
 
Zaino has a great shine already....why not just put another layer of zaino on deepen the shine. Zaino is also optically perfect...why would you want to put something on top of it that adds oils and a tint to the color of the car? It defeats the whole purpose of the product. I don't know any zaino users that do this, you just don't need to!
 
I sent email to Zaino yesterday asking the same question, this is the answer I got from Sal Zaino...



Q.

>Also would I need to put on a coat of carnuba wax over >the z2 when it is all done.



A.

No!!!!. Do not put wax on top of Zaino.



Zaino Show Car Polish is 99.9% optically perfect. Do not put anything on top of Zaino except Zaino. That would defeat the whole purpose of my product.
 
I am pretty orthodox in my Zaino use. I respect Sal and have found DK's advice and views to be sound.



That said, although the experiment will likely be a failure, it would be cool is someone DID the experiment and put a high quality wax on top of their Z, taking before and after shots. Then we would have direct evidence. I would volunteer, but I am still building coats of Z and the wax would interfere.



Has anyone done this? Anyone want to volunteer?
 
I have used Pinnacle Paste Glaz over Zaino on a white car. I am happy to reveal the world did not come to an end, little to no loss in shine and I got what I wanted more protection for the paint. The Zaino layer was being stained which I did not like. As to Zaino being 99.9 optically perfect, sounds like marketing mumbo to me, great shine yes, optically perfect, have my doubts.
 
nothing is opticaly perfect, not even glass. I respect Sal and DK but its not about having an opticaly perfect shine, but something that looks great. I was just wondering if a good wax can add more depth and warmth to the zaino. Sure it is superficial in a sense seeing as it wont last long and you are putting some oils over the zaino, i was just curious why no one has done this before...
 
Can someone please explain the term "warmth" in terms of their car finish? I often see this descriptive term being used and have no idea what it means(in terms of a car's polish, wax, or paint job.)



Here are the definitions of warmth that I find:

1)The state, sensation, or quality of producing or having a moderate degree of heat: an agreeable warmth in the house.

2)Friendliness, kindness, or affection: human warmth.

3)Excitement or intensity, as of love or passion; ardor.

4)The glowing effect produced by using predominantly red or yellow hues.
 
It is mostly description number four. It means that the color such as a red becomes redder, yellow less bright and harsh, and blues a little deeper, and that the cars shine as a whole is more pleasing. For instance, i just did a gold BMW 3-series. After the klasse, the car loked bright gold with a yellow hue. After the Blitz, the car took on a deeper "warmer" tone, less flashy gold and more of a pleasant color.
 
Brad4rdHay, can you please post some pictures of the before and after Blitz so I can see what you mean?



When people talk about depth are they referring to depth of color or depth of shine? When I refer to depth, I am referring to depth of shine.



[Edited by RIC on 08-16-2001 at 05:31 PM]
 
yeah its depth of shine. Dont wory, warmth is not the biggest thing in the world...trust me, the blitz topper to klasse will make it look better.
 
Klasse & Zaino are good for making the car shiny. None of these products will protect the paint against rocks or road debris.



As far as looks, I find the Carnauba look to be the best. Zaino nor Klasse by itself can match carnauba's Wet & Deep Glossy finish.



Using the best of both worlds gives you a Showcar finish that neither product by itself can match.
 
Michael H -- thanks for the post. I understand that you felt the wax protected the Z. Did you notice any visual differences after applying the wax?
 
I used a good wax, so to the eye this was no noticable reduction in the shine. Looked just as good afterwards.



I agree with the observations of Eurosport, in exeperince the comments are spot on.
 
Michael H -- So, the wax on top of the Z improved the look of the paint, compared to how it looked Zed but without a wax topping? If so, how would you say the wax improved the look?
 
Zaino will make your car's paint look natural, like it just came out of the paint shop, they way it was supposed to and meant to look. Carnubas usually give it a slight tint. You see light refracting off the oil, not the paint. It tends to make a car redder, or blacker,etc,etc. Zaino just makes it look like it is coated in glass. It's all a matter of opinion. Like sal once put it......picture 2 people with jet black hair....one natural and one oiled back with gel. Both look good....but the "look" is a matter of preference......



I really don't care for the oily carnuba look anymore.
 
Michael H -- thanks for the report.



Detail King -- good points. When I "got" the Zaino thing (after a few coats), that was my exact realization: "Wow, its like someone poured a thin coat of pure glass over the car."
 
So I broke out the ole leaf blower today to just clean the driveway of leafs. Figured I'd spend 15-30 minutes

3.5 hours later I have a huge pile of leafs I had to bag. I could not stop once I got going. I think its something in the engine noise that puts me into some kinda zombie trance.


Anything like this ever happen to you?

Looking forward to all responses :toetap05:
 
Flash Gordon said:
So I broke out the ole leaf blower today to just clean the driveway of leafs. Figured I'd spend 15-30 minutes

3.5 hours later I have a huge pile of leafs I had to bag. I could not stop once I got going. I think its something in the engine noise that puts me into some kinda zombie trance.


Anything like this ever happen to you?

Looking forward to all responses :toetap05:
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I know exactly what you mean, I did the exact same thing the other day. I was only going to blow the patio off, then I started chasing everything off the patio and continued into the yard and ended up doing the entire backyard. The kids loved it, they played in the pile. There is something about the leaf blower that just puts you in the zone and you just keep going. Funny topic. :cornut:
 
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